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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Apple wasn't running around touting that they invented 4G, or saying they were the first to build a phone with a bigger screen. They said that you could now have an iPhone with 4GB as well as a bigger screen. Many iPhones users are completely satisfied and don't want their precious phone overhauled, but 4G and a bigger screen will certainly make them happier as well as having a lighter and smaller model. Why wouldn't Apple fans be delighted?
    The only thing that most iPhone users are satisfied of is that it's a new iPhone and buy it with blinders on. For $199 on contract there are better phones but because they don't have Apple logos they just aren't any good. Apple has always been a great company at marketing their products, hence the reason they no longer have to make a great product to sell it. Apple knows that there are millions brainwashed by their product hype and that they can make little changes yearly and resell the same product. Apple could have put LTE support in the 4S, but then they wouldn't have something to show for the iPhone 5. The iPhone 5 could have had NFC, but then they need that for the 5S next year. It's been this way since the first iPod went on sale, just funny and sad how many naive people there.

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    This is true, apple can say that they're releasing something and what they literally release is nothing, yet there will be people that will actually buy nothing.

    And as for the iphone as a fashion item, fashion trends don't last forever.
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  3. #53


    The start-up times for W8 over W7 is a notable improvement. Benchmarks I've read comparing W7 vs. W8 show improvements in all respects. Even if you don't use the tablet functionality, it looks like it'll be a welcome improvement. Yeah, some of the interface changes are peculiar compared to how things have worked before, but as 3rd party floating toolbars become available and other customizations, I'm sure you'll be able to adjust the interface to your liking.
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  4. #54


    Quote Originally Posted by R0bR View Post
    The only thing that most iPhone users are satisfied of is that it's a new iPhone and buy it with blinders on. For $199 on contract there are better phones but because they don't have Apple logos they just aren't any good.
    Well, in all fairness, I've had blackberries and droids, while my wife has had her single Apple iPhone 3GS. Unlike my phones that have occasionally required a battery pull to get working properly, that has NEVER once had to happen with her iPhone. Her phone has continued to run smooth and fast for the past 3.5 years, but my Droid on the other hand has certainly slowed down and seems to just sort of lock up and freeze from time to time.

    My wife has been thinking about other phones for a while now to replace her aging iPhone 3GS. She has considered the Samsung Galaxy S3 (too big), and the Motorola Razr/Razr Maxx. But at the end of the day, she just cannot bring herself to buy the Droid based phone as she hates my droid (Motorola Droid 2), and she feels she would just miss having her iPhone...which has been outstanding for her for the past 3.5 years.
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    My Windows Phone hasn't ever needed a reboot to get working again so far, and it's been about six months almost. Some others report the same. Interesting pparks1 that your wife's 3GS still runs fine as I know someone that has one that they feel runs slow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    My Windows Phone hasn't ever needed a reboot to get working again so far, and it's been about six months almost. Some others report the same. Interesting pparks1 that your wife's 3GS still runs fine as I know someone that has one that they feel runs slow.
    Well, some people runs tons and tons of stuff on their devices and install a billion applications. That doesn't describe my wife, so perhaps she has kept hers running more efficiently.
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  7. #57


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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by R0bR View Post
    The only thing that most iPhone users are satisfied of is that it's a new iPhone and buy it with blinders on. For $199 on contract there are better phones but because they don't have Apple logos they just aren't any good.
    Well, in all fairness, I've had blackberries and droids, while my wife has had her single Apple iPhone 3GS. Unlike my phones that have occasionally required a battery pull to get working properly, that has NEVER once had to happen with her iPhone. Her phone has continued to run smooth and fast for the past 3.5 years, but my Droid on the other hand has certainly slowed down and seems to just sort of lock up and freeze from time to time.

    My wife has been thinking about other phones for a while now to replace her aging iPhone 3GS. She has considered the Samsung Galaxy S3 (too big), and the Motorola Razr/Razr Maxx. But at the end of the day, she just cannot bring herself to buy the Droid based phone as she hates my droid (Motorola Droid 2), and she feels she would just miss having her iPhone...which has been outstanding for her for the past 3.5 years.
    I had an iPhone 3GS, at the time it was the best phone on the market, Android didn't exist and my provider didn't have a decent Windows Mobile phone device. The phone ran well enough but had to be reboot at least monthly and at times it would just reboot on it's own while being charged. I then installed iOS 4 on it and it was downhill from there, multiple reboots, poor performance and when WP7 came out I dumped it. I've had WP7 since release Oct 2010, I might have rebooted it a couple of times since other than when doing software updates. If your wife is looking at possibly replacing her 3GS tell her to look at WP8 when it's released, she may be surprised.
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  8. #58


    My wife has been waiting for a new phone for quite a while. She skipped the iPhone 4 and 4s because of the glass back. Unsure she is going to wait longer for Windows 8.

    As a therapist who works in a school with Austistic kids. They use iPhone and iPad apps there pretty extensively. I see almost no possibility of her doing anything but an iPhone. She will be 100% satisfied.
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    Different in the US?


    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Marketing agencies are not giving their opinion. They are subject to standards and practices regulations. To be successful, as Windows 8 will be, a company must be honest, fair, have transparency and be responsible. A point of view is not subject to business laws.
    Marketing agencies give the opinion of the company that commissioned the ad.
    Like all projects, the company that commissioned the ad must sign a legal document saying that they approve of the content.

    In Australia, Apple got sued over misleading iPhone ads (about 4G) and lost, not the marketing agency.

    Maybe it is different in the US.
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    It's the same in the US.

    United States v. Microsoft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    I wish there could be an Operating System made in Europe called Eurosoft Corporation (not the PC diagnostic software company), or one in Australia called Aboriginal Software (not the shareware company). Why can't the Chinese make an OS for their country? Maybe they do? I do not know? Or the Germans > Germansoft! Inc. (not the website developers) I don't like that, Microsoft, from Redmond, Washington, has to provide the world with an Operating System that attempts to be usable, agreeable, up to date and profitable for use by everyone everywhere. Market trends have shown that a flat pure desktop only has no growth potential or innovation. A flat pure desktop only is a utensil. Many would prefer the Microsoft Utensil OS. Got UNIX? I suppose Microsoft could choose to not be a global provider, but could they do that? Could they stop selling to Europeans? Or Asians? Is Windows 8 a clever ploy to steal? Is Windows 8 a ludicrous waste of talent? Does it make sense to market a commercially driven for profit OS in countries that have economic strife? How about a Global Operating System made by Globesoft Inc. (not the Swedish technology company) Or is that Apple? These massive enterprises tend to get sued all the time because they are a huge target. Are they good? Is there evil in the world? Are they swindlers? Are they con artists? Is there a conspiracy to deceive? I think MS is just a software company that tries to be profitable, and sometimes they are unable to. Lots of people in America and from other geopolitical locations around the planet distrust wealth. Is Microsoft greedy? Should they be ruined? Lawsuits happen all the time because certain entities have a grievance. Marketing agencies are paid to produce a product that is, "like you said," the opinion of the enterprise seeking to advertise something. So there is no perfection, people are not always right and not always wrong. I just today heard of a company being sued for deceptive marketing practices on the radio. They deny the charges and will seek a resolution to clear their name brand and reputation. It is all very messy. Getting into business these days is not an easy task. There are any number of organizations that will always seek to get their piece of the pie. And Microsoft has to code their Operating Systems User Interfaces to languages around the world. Imagine how many offices and personnel that requires! Who were the first to attempt to kill the metro? The Chinese. Will Windows 8 be successful in Romania? In Poland? In Korea? In Russia? In Greece? I do not know. Perhaps it could be successful in the United States but all bets are off. The Windows Store is getting loaded with multi language apps now. They could be interesting but I don't really need apps from Korea, Thailand, Russia or India! And the desktop is still there as an upgrade of Windows 7. It may not be very well received, but I still think Windows 8 will be successful down the road. Updates and patches, service packs and more will happen as it has always happened.

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