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This is why I believe Windows 8 will be a success.*

  1. #41


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    Win7 Ultimate and trial Win8


    Does anyone remember 'Minority Report'? If so, do you remember how the character was using gestures ( Kinect anyone) and tiles to peruse through the information? That was in 2002, sometimes real life does mimic fiction ( or was it completely?) I remember many people say they wished to be able to navigate.
    People have had mostly negative things to say about Windows since MS moved away from the beloved XP. Compared to all OS's since, XP sucks. (even Vista) If you do not like change, don't. Stay in the 2000s and get left behind. The tech world is changing and developing even faster than it has in the past, and IMHO, for the better.
    Windows 8 is just the next step in making our world even more interactive with the objects around us. We are getting curved monitors with edge to edge display and native display support for more than 2 monitors. Touch screen interaction that was realistically unheard of a few years ago.

    Remember,
    Roughly 90% of the people on this planet are common everyday users and it is our JOB to enable their use of technology easier with what WE are given to work with by those that develop the tools.

    You just need to set your mind that I will give it my happiest best effort.

    Of course, I have been using tiles for almost 2 years on my Windows Phone 7/7.5

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  2. #42


    Of course, imaginne how uncool Minority Report would have been without the technology to make use of the gestures. As 98% of us laptop and desktop users do not have touchscreens.
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  3. #43


    Posts : 534
    Windows 7, Windows 8 RP


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Of course, imaginne how uncool Minority Report would have been without the technology to make use of the gestures. As 98% of us laptop and desktop users do not have touchscreens.
    You need to be more open minded pparks1. How do you know that in 10 years you won't be managing a data center with a Minority Report type setup AND getting pretty good excercise too? Heck, you may even have a few Cogs in a bath helping you to determine why your SAN infrastructure failed. lol.
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  4. #44


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    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)

    Marketing Hype vs Facts


    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Microsoft has a right to "add features" and "remove features" to its OS even if many disapprove.
    I don't remember saying that they didn't.

    IMO and that of a most (all?) of my friends, hype is what you use to sell a product, when you can't announce any real benefits/features/improvements.
    There is a big difference between "Marketing Hype" and "User Word-of-Mouth Hype".

    As I'm sure you're aware, I don't like Metro, but I have stated multiple times that there are actual improvements in the "Real" Windows code.

    Here are 4 factual statements that MS could have pushed just as easily:
    • Faster boot up, improved performance and smaller resource footprint
    • More Secure
    • Runs on existing Vista or W7 PCs
    • Upgrade your old XP, Vista or W7 operating system for $40 (genuine Product Key required)


    Note:
    I know there are more features, but I don't consider most of them to be improvements.
    IMO, a least one "improvement" is actually a degradation.

    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Do you get CSI: Miami in Australia? I would like to know what kind of OS they use. It probably does not exist.
    CSI: (insert City name)?
    I think they are shown here (I don't watch them).

    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Digital authentic design is taking the RGB pixels on the screen and using those pixel colors.


    Every computer I've ever used has been "digitally authentic":
    • Apple IIe
    • Commodore 64
    • BBC
    • IBM Clone
    • Archimedes
    • Amiga
    • Macintosh
    • My last 4 PCs
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  5. #45


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    Server 2012 / 8.0


    I like CSI:Miami because they give the appearance of having an awesome computer system to work with. I don't believe all the hype. Good hype, bad hype, whatever, it's just a sales pitch. And it's all legal. You don't like the metro and I don't like UNIX or Apple. I don't even like smartphones because their contracts are just too expensive for me and I don't need them. A simple tracfone is all I need (40 bucks for the phone and about 5 dollars a month to use - no data - no video - no apps) Windows 8 will succeed because of physics in the marketplace, its inertia will carry it forward. The reviews have not been all bad. There is a tremendous amount of negative hype out there but not enough to stop 8 from being successful. Microsoft's advertising division has proffered adequate details to the general public at their website and at their conferences and elsewhere to display their new product's capabilities. They have an entire BUILD expo circuit to demo and present their products. In an attempt to make the transition easier, 8 has been readily available to use for a full year now. Running 8 in a virtual box is not really the best testing platform. Dual booting has caused all kinds of problems, most of which are from installer errors. Also insisting on using high powered graphics cards that have not been certified as compatible creates problems and frustration. Some testers have inadequate screen resolutions, or they want to install hardware or software that is not currently compatible with Windows 8. There are many irritants that have ticked people off including the commercial aspect of the metro or the metro UI itself which many cannot stand. Even so, there is not enough negative momentum out there to stop 8 from succeeding. The legal hype of any enterprise is a matter of interpretation and is subject to ethical standards and regulation that keeps it legal.
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  6. #46


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    Oh yes of course hype is needed, just look at the iphone 5. Literally, nothing new that no other phone has, but it still will sell as it has inertia to overlook a flimsy product that is only now trying to improve the hardware a bit.
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  7. #47


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    Server 2012 / 8.0


    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    There is a big difference between "Marketing Hype" and "User Word-of-Mouth Hype".
    Personally, I don't think Windows 8 is a product that requires hype to succeed. I think it is a good solid desktop Operating System and can succeed by virtue of its design and flexibility to be used in business and elsewhere. My inference about the inertia relates to the fact that 400+ million copies of 8 will be deployed to OEM's worldwide. That's a lot of gravity! Does hype = advertising? The source of the hype shouldn't matter so much as the content. Effective advertising is more ethical than small talk.
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    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Oh yes of course hype is needed, just look at the iphone 5. Literally, nothing new that no other phone has, but it still will sell as it has inertia to overlook a flimsy product that is only now trying to improve the hardware a bit.
    The iPhone will sell because it's a fashion item.
    Also, a lot of people who buy Apple products are fanatics (they'll buy anything with an Apple logo on it).

    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    My inference about the inertia relates to the fact that 400+ million copies of 8 will be deployed to OEM's worldwide.
    Inertia?
    I must have missed that.

    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Effective advertising is more ethical than small talk.
    Ethical?
    Is that why ads for credit cards have "0% interest" in giant type and the fine print (4px high for 1 or 2 seconds) says "actual interest rate 20%"?

    Is that why the iPod ads show people doing all sorts of fantastic activities with a single finger press and the fine print says "sequence shortened"?

    I trust my friends opinions over the info supplied by companies and marketing agencies.
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  9. #49


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    Server 2012 / 8.0


    Marketing agencies are not giving their opinion. They are subject to standards and practices regulations. To be successful, as Windows 8 will be, a company must be honest, fair, have transparency and be responsible. A point of view is not subject to business laws.
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  10. #50


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Oh yes of course hype is needed, just look at the iphone 5. Literally, nothing new that no other phone has, but it still will sell as it has inertia to overlook a flimsy product that is only now trying to improve the hardware a bit.
    Apple wasn't running around touting that they invented 4G, or saying they were the first to build a phone with a bigger screen. They said that you could now have an iPhone with 4GB as well as a bigger screen. Many iPhones users are completely satisfied and don't want their precious phone overhauled, but 4G and a bigger screen will certainly make them happier as well as having a lighter and smaller model. Why wouldn't Apple fans be delighted?
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