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This is why I believe Windows 8 will be a success.*

  1. #21


    Posts : 534
    Windows 7, Windows 8 RP


    [QUOTE=pparks1;118095]
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Even if I could touch my monitor and launch an application, I still don't want full screen apps on my computer monitor. It's just a waste of space. Let me resize the Window so that I can have multiple things running. That IS what Windows is to me.
    Then don't use Apps, stick to the desktop and use the Start Screen as a launcher. I've been testing W8 for work for a while and this past week I wiped out 7 and am running 8 exclusively. During my normal work day doing everything I used to do before I spend very little time in the Start Screen. I'd say I spend 90% of my time in the desktop on both my laptop screen and external monitor, the other 10% is launching applications that I use very little, checking personal email in the Mail App or checking the weather etc.

    Based on our past posts you know we have similar jobs and I have a hard time understanding your struggles with W8, it's like you force yourself to use Apps when you don't need to. Now if you're talking for personal computing outside of work then that's different, I'm sure we use computers much more differently. Most of my personal computing is reading news, watching TV shows or Movies (I don't have cable) so I spend a lot of time in Metro.

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  2. #22


    [QUOTE=R0bR;118685]
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Then don't use Apps, stick to the desktop and use the Start Screen as a launcher.
    I am not using the full screen apps, but I'm trying to adjust to the potential change when these apps become more the standard and the classic desktop apps goes away. I use the start screen currently as a launcher, and then I pin the items to my taskbar on the desktop. This gives me very little time on the actual Start Screen in any day. (on a vm, I have tested classic shell and boot to desktop from deviantart) and both of those have sufficed to get things back enough to normal.

    Quote Originally Posted by R0bR View Post
    Based on our past posts you know we have similar jobs and I have a hard time understanding your struggles with W8, it's like you force yourself to use Apps when you don't need to.
    I'm not struggling, I just don't like it. And I'm forcing myself to use it as MS intended so I have a good feel for how everyday people are going to experience it.

    My time for personal computing outside of work these days is almost non-existent. Between work, the gym, getting kids to piano, dance and swimming classes, my wife sings in a choir and I run soundboards as a side gig on weekends my computer time is usually an hour with my laptop reading these forums.
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  3. #23


    Posts : 534
    Windows 7, Windows 8 RP


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    I am not using the full screen apps, but I'm trying to adjust to the potential change when these apps become more the standard and the classic desktop apps goes away.
    So you're trying to adjust to something that is either not going to happen or if it does it is far off in the future? Classic desktop applications are not going anywhere anytime soon.

    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    I'm not struggling, I just don't like it. And I'm forcing myself to use it as MS intended so I have a good feel for how everyday people are going to experience it.
    Why? Is your company looking to move to Windows 8 anytime soon?
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  4. #24


    Quote Originally Posted by R0bR View Post
    Why? Is your company looking to move to Windows 8 anytime soon?
    No, we aren't planning to move at my company to Windows 8 in any capacity.

    The reason I am using it
    #1). I'm a techie and I like playing with this stuff
    #2). I'll be asked for advice from friends, coworkers and family...I'm officially their tech support.
    #3). I don't want to be closed minded and potentially miss some awesome features which might be available in a new OS.
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  5. #25


    Posts : 219
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 Bit


    Man, I am sorry, but I just have to say that I felt the original poster was just extremely mistaken. I spent about a week on windows 8 and can tell you, that it felt like the most un-intuitive os I had ever used. I wanted to like it. I still think it is a good idea over all, just poorly executed. When you force your user base down a road that you think is best for them like urban sheep, don't get confused when they start yelling Bah... I work in tech support. During work I run about 12 programs side by side, all of which are necessary. I cannot imagine attempting to do this with Win8 as my OS, as it now stands. Again, good idea, poorly executed...
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  6. #26


    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0


    Quote Originally Posted by musiclover7 View Post
    I spent about a week on windows 8
    A week? I have been using it for about 52 weeks. I have used every version of Microsoft Operating Systems since DOS and find it to be the easiest OS ever to use.

    Quote Originally Posted by musiclover7 View Post
    I still think it is a good idea over all, just poorly executed.
    Poorly executed? Because of the start menu? Many agree with you but I think the execution of it was quite inspired and effective.

    Quote Originally Posted by musiclover7 View Post
    When you force your user base down a road that you think is best for them like urban sheep, don't get confused when they start yelling Bah...
    Many have already said "Bah" in the press and elsewhere. So many agree with you, but it is what Microsoft has engineered as the "next generation" Operating System. The "plain old desktop" is a tool that is enhanced by the new UI, > IMO...

    Quote Originally Posted by musiclover7 View Post
    I work in tech support. During work I run about 12 programs side by side, all of which are necessary. I cannot imagine attempting to do this with Win8 as my OS, as it now stands.
    If you run 12 programs side by side in 7, Why could you not do the same in 8? What does the metro or the edge UI have to do with it? Surely, multi tasking and minimizing windows is a necessity if running 12 programs or windows. All of that can be done in 8 as well on the desktop. What does the metro have to do with it? The taskbar is still there. Anything can be pinned to the taskbar for desktop work, so what is the difference. Is it the edge UI (charms, thumbnails, hotspots etc) (or the start screen) that you find un-intuitive? It seems a better system to me than the old orb. The pinning and unpinning efficiency to the start screen and taskbar is a huge plus IMO. Getting to know how to operate the hot spots makes this OS click. But I am sounding like another MS press release or commercial, so ...

    It will succeed because there is a need to keep up with evolving technology.
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  7. #27


    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    If you run 12 programs side by side in 7, Why could you not do the same in 8? What does the metro or the edge UI have to do with it? Surely, multi tasking and minimizing windows is a necessity if running 12 programs or windows. All of that can be done in 8 as well on the desktop. What does the metro have to do with it? The taskbar is still there. Anything can be pinned to the taskbar for desktop work, so what is the difference.
    If you are on a single large monitor, and what you want hasn't been pinned to the taskbar, when you flip to the new Start screen, you lose your view of everything that you had open while you are looking around for the start tile for the other application you need. Before I could just bring up the start button and find my app while still being able to see everything that was on my desktop. It's not the end of the world, but is certainly a lot less effect for many of us.
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  8. #28


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    It's simple. It's modern. It's intrinsic. It's practical. It's unique. It's personal. That is the Windows 8 and this is why I believe it will do well in the younger group.
    I would add:"It's hype". And young people fall for hype.
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  9. #29


    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    If you are on a single large monitor, and what you want hasn't been pinned to the taskbar, when you flip to the new Start screen, you lose your view of everything that you had open while you are looking around for the start tile for the other application you need.
    Ok. A "flip" takes about 1 second. A pin takes 1 second. So now you have your link pinned to the taskbar...and it's off to work again... The "view" will remain and return to desktop by hotspot - 1 second.

    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    It's simple. It's modern. It's intrinsic. It's practical. It's unique. It's personal. That is the Windows 8 and this is why I believe it will do well in the younger group.
    I would add:"It's hype". And young people fall for hype.
    But young people are not necessarily stupid. What's wrong with "hype?" Hype is a good word. Hype is used in all kinds of advertising. As I said elsewhere, this is international in scope, and many are philosophically opposed to commercial interest.
    Last edited by mdmd; 22 Sep 2012 at 11:16.
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  10. #30


    Posts : 534
    Windows 7, Windows 8 RP


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    No, we aren't planning to move at my company to Windows 8 in any capacity.

    The reason I am using it
    #1). I'm a techie and I like playing with this stuff
    #2). I'll be asked for advice from friends, coworkers and family...I'm officially their tech support.
    #3). I don't want to be closed minded and potentially miss some awesome features which might be available in a new OS.
    Ok, that's cool. It's hard at times to know if you're speaking in terms of a work scenario or personal scenario.
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