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Do you want Aero?

  1. #61


    Orbiting the Moon
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    Windows 10 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    Gone, uglified, whatever.....


    I want the SAME transparency as I get in 7, and GOT in the Win 8 CP.

    If others don't want it, that's fine.

    But I DO, and that should also be fine.

    But it isn't. Wonder why?

    I can see no VALID reason for its removal.
    Yes, It's a pitty especially if you liked the W7 looks.
    I wonder if one of those 3rd party glass (i got one with a custom theme but runs on any theme) or fullglass or transparent glass programs still work in W8? Seems to be the only option for now.

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  2. #62


    Posts : 142
    Windows 8 Enterprise 64-bit (7 Ult, Vista & XP in V-Box)


    That's what I'll probably do, Hopachi.

    I do like the OS itself, and have sorted most of the issues I had with it.

    But the CP on the other lappy looks SOOOO much nicer....the RTM is
    painfully ugly by comparison.
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  3. #63


    United States
    Posts : 650
    Windows 8.1 Pro, iOS 7.1, Elementary OS


    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    That's what I'll probably do, Hopachi.

    I do like the OS itself, and have sorted most of the issues I had with it.

    But the CP on the other lappy looks SOOOO much nicer....the RTM is
    painfully ugly by comparison.
    Get the RP on the laptop and use it. I don't see many visual differences with
    CP and RP.
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  4. #64


    Its when you go to rtm that the big changes start....in my opinion for the worst.
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  5. #65


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Clean and simple.

    Right on.
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  6. #66


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    That's what I'll probably do, Hopachi.

    I do like the OS itself, and have sorted most of the issues I had with it.

    But the CP on the other lappy looks SOOOO much nicer....the RTM is
    painfully ugly by comparison.
    Already tried one of the glass programs ("Transparent glass.exe" saying glass on the icon, version 3.3.0) and it's not working: it gives the text the window border colors, somehow it's expecting Windows transparency to be available (but it's not).

    What I don't really like doing is replacing the aero.msstyles from RTM with the one on RP but then the uxtheme files would block this theme and we'll need one of those notorious patches (not sure if they work correct here) and maybe it will work again. I'll see in a VM if it works or not.

    Note:
    Anyone who wants to test something crazy like this should do that in a VM and not messing their real system.
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  7. #67


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    and this is where microsoft should have made a clear distinction between desktop and mobile versions of windows 8.

    I'm just baffled microsoft haven't figured it out yet...desktop users generally have more than enough resources and some even want the option to use extra because they have it.

    I just don't get their stance on making all versions as dull as each other..they are aware that a desktop doesn't have the same issues so it begs the question, do they really want desktop users using crap apps all day long from the microsoft store, every decision made by microsoft of late makes me wonder if they have completely lost touch with their key market of desktop users.
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  8. #68


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    That's what I'll probably do, Hopachi.

    I do like the OS itself, and have sorted most of the issues I had with it.

    But the CP on the other lappy looks SOOOO much nicer....the RTM is
    painfully ugly by comparison.
    Already tried one of the glass programs ("Transparent glass.exe" saying glass on the icon, version 3.3.0) and it's not working: it gives the text the window border colors, somehow it's expecting Windows transparency to be available (but it's not).

    What I don't really like doing is replacing the aero.msstyles from RTM with the one on RP but then the uxtheme files would block this theme and we'll need one of those notorious patches (not sure if they work correct here) and maybe it will work again. I'll see in a VM if it works or not.

    Note:
    Anyone who wants to test something crazy like this should do that in a VM and not messing their real system.
    Good news!

    You can get the RP Aero-look in the RTM without patching any files.
    Just replace the Aero folder in the RTM with the one from RP and it works.

    Do the replacement from outside the os (tested and recommended method) or take ownership (didn't tested this, chances are not to work because aero is constantly used, try end task of dwm.exe and/or themes service).
    Do a reboot and see the new theme.

    It seems to be pretty safe to apply: RP aero files match the RTM without patching. Metro Start Screen works normally.

    Tested in a VBox Win8 RTM VM: (x86 not tested but should be similar)

    Before: (original RTM aero)
    Click image for larger version

    Then replacing the whole aero folder in the Resources:
    Click image for larger version
    rebooted with a pe cd just to make sure the replacement works without issues:
    Click image for larger version

    After: (same os)
    Click image for larger version

    @Kat & Co.
    Problem solved.

    Cheers
    Hopachi
    Last edited by Hopachi; 27 Sep 2012 at 07:55.
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  9. #69


    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    Gone, uglified, whatever.....


    I want the SAME transparency as I get in 7, and GOT in the Win 8 CP.

    If others don't want it, that's fine.

    But I DO, and that should also be fine.

    But it isn't. Wonder why?

    I can see no VALID reason for its removal.
    I agree, and I also did not see a good reason to rip out Gadgets which Msoft said was because of a security problem, and a bunch of other useful features that were in Windows 7 are now gone. For this reason I'm still running the RP.

    I mean really, would it have been too much to give the millions of PC users some actual options in the GUI?

    As a PC user I feel we have been left out in the cold in favor of some lousy tablet.
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  10. #70


    Posts : 142
    Windows 8 Enterprise 64-bit (7 Ult, Vista & XP in V-Box)


    Many thanks, Hopachi.

    Off to work soon, but will have a play with that this evening.
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