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    suitable for the enterprise


    As a supporter of Windows 8:
    What does the "Microsoft Store" have to do with it? How is Windows 8 not suitable for the enterprise if the
    "Microsoft Store" is not part of the equation?

    The "Microsoft Store" can be blocked and denied access to using the local group policy editor.

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    Enterprise Workstation Multi Monitor Support:

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    Programs can be launched from start or all apps.
    ...or taskbar or desktop or other so...

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    When extending monitors you can multi task as many programs as
    you can fit or use inside of the monitors.

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    When launching something into extended screens, all one need do
    is drag what you need to the appropriate screen.

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    DVD support can be easily added

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    How is Windows 8 not suitable for the enterprise if the
    "Microsoft Store" is not part of the equation?
    Because the UI change requires training, newly written documentation, etc. Also, some may not find the new UI efficient and effective, thus resulting in potential lost employee productivity.
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    Is there any chance it could increase productivity with better hardware support over Windows XP and offset the upgrade and retraining costs? Also, is there any statistical data that has determined that the new UI is inefficient and ineffective? (remove the emotion)

    Do you think the software engineers and the Microsoft Corporation, with review, recommendation and analysis procedures (2012), would release an inefficient and ineffective Operating System?
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    The focused production platform is flexible enough to accommodate a variety of technical applications using both WinRT and Win32 services in Windows 8. The Win32 environment is currently where all work is done. Online tickers and complex layered networking structures would not conflict with Operating System management. Any development and installation of software would necessarily have to comply with the type of environment to be utilized. The "enterprise" functions in the Win32 environment and would not be affected by the existence of WinRT services.
    Last edited by mdmd; 09 Sep 2012 at 23:19. Reason: more content - accuracy
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Is there any chance it could increase productivity with better hardware support over Windows XP
    I don't think that the lost productivity in business is from lack of hardware support. In the case of my business, we aren't running many XP machines at all these days, it's all Vista and 7.


    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Also, is there any statistical data that has determined that the new UI is inefficient and ineffective? (remove the emotion)
    Nothing official that I have seen. But keeping in mind that going from XP to Vista took some effort and going from XP to Windows 7 took some effort...considering there is substantially more change in Windows 8, it would have to be expected that it would require more work to train. You gotta remember, for many office computer workers, they aren't enthusiasts and computer experts, they have just learned how to do particular tasks by clicking on this, that, and then the other thing. You change up everything and either 1). they won't find it 2). they will simply sit there and play and try to figure out where everything went. These things will lead to productivity issues.



    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Do you think the software engineers and the Microsoft Corporation, with review, recommendation and analysis procedures (2012), would release an inefficient and ineffective Operating System?
    Yes, you must not remember the launch of Windows Vista. Microsoft is scrambling right now to combat the loss of customers to iPad's and touch centric systems. They didn't make these changes to extend and grow the Windows interface as we have known it over the past 20 years.

    Only time will tell whether the general population likes the change.
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    I have heard a lot about the failure of Vista, so to speak. I used it for 2 years and never had a problem with it. No driver problems, it never froze, the desktop was nice looking. Frankly, I had no compelling reason to upgrade to 7 except it came with a new computer by default. As far as releasing an ineffective and inefficient OS, that kind of criticism is a bit unfair for the programmers. I always view this from a programmers point of view. I'll bet when the designers made their presentation to the suits, the internal reviews were adequate.

    The scope of the "needs of the many" is not always obvious since things change all the time. Right now for instance, as many have, I have been using 8 for almost a year. Many have had all kinds of issues and continue to have issues. My experience has been one of zero problems.

    As far as the office secretary is concerned, as one example, she might get "used" to punching a tile real quick. She might even like it better than a menu. So, if a company does not need anything now, that's fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd
    Do you think the software engineers and the Microsoft Corporation, with review, recommendation and analysis procedures (2012), would release an inefficient and ineffective Operating System?
    Yes.
    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd
    Programs can be launched from start or all apps. ...or taskbar or desktop or other so...
    ...or unofficial Start Menu replacement?
    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd
    How is Windows 8 not suitable for the enterprise if the "Microsoft Store" is not part of the equation?
    It depends on how much the Metro UI will interfere with productity. If poeple can work all day long on the desktop without seeing the Start Screen poping up for no reason, then I think it can be ok. Adding support to disable Metro entirely may be the easiest solution.
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    But according to design analysis experts, the start screen, edge UI, all apps, hot corners and edge thumbnailing is more efficient and effective than an ORB system. Remove the Microsoft Store and just view the machine as a workplace unit. Office employees are not usually unable to function. The new interface may take some getting used to but in the end might be a better option. Also, pinning to the desktop window, taskbar, and other means is still available. The start screen itself is not necessarily required. The all apps area is.
    Last edited by mdmd; 10 Sep 2012 at 10:59. Reason: accuracy
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    Enterprise Resource Planning solutions can be integrated directly into the desktop environment. WinRT is a compliment to the usage plan. WinRT works in seamless execution with Win32 so that no conflict with advanced multilayered networked systems when applied to the Operating System would occur. In a purely functional environment, a Windows 8 workstation can function within the normal parameters of what a sophisticated business might require.
    Last edited by mdmd; 09 Sep 2012 at 23:31. Reason: more content - accuracy
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    But according to design analysis experts, the start screen, edge UI, all apps, hot corners and edge thumb nailing is more efficient and effective than an ORB system.
    Depends on the expert.
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