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Windows 8: My complaints

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    Windows 8: My input


    I have it installed as my primary OS and have been exploring it for about a week now. Although I do like several features, I am going to be re-installing 7 because I feel limited in 8. The most frustrating aspect of 8 is the lack of simple menu choices. For instance, I can view photos in the photo app but when I want to export them, open them with another program, or really anything other than just viewing them... windows 8 limits those actions by not providing me with menu options other that four or five basic command choices. It's like having a phone OS on your PC! Even the apps available for it like the eBay app are useless because of these limited menu options, forcing you to go to the actual website to do practically anything other than buy! This format is appealing to a non-user who will enjoy the simplicity of its design. But anyone who likes having multiple options available to them will be disappointed because of the restrictive nature of its interface. The user who doesn't rely on right-clicking to explore other possible actions might actually feel more comfortable having only five or six actions available to them, but people like myself who are not intimidated by having several choices will feel like they have given up any control that they once had had over their files for a smartphone styled PC. The Internet Browser is deficient as well, the back button has moved to mid page on the left for back and right for forward, which interferes with fields on pages that happen to have them located in these areas, inadvertently causing you to switch pages when you are just trying to enter a field. This can be quite frustrating! upgrading to 8 is like taking a step backward in my opinion from 7 to XP. The search feature that made 7 so wonderful has disappeared along with the start menu, which could have at least been retained when you are in the desktop 7 mode that the system has built in. Why is there a desktop and a new start menu? And the answer is because of the new start menu not giving you the choices needed, forcing you to switch between modes to accomplish simple tasks! I am very quick to adapt to new formats, but the changes here seem to greatly limit the freedom you have in 7. The best analogy I can give is using Media center to open media files vs. using media player in windows 7. Media center is more aesthetically pleasing with the way that you open or browse files, however the functionality is severely limited making the user prefer media player. That way if I want to make a playlist of movies to watch I simply select files, right-click and select add to media player, but this ever so simple option is just not available in media center, so I can only watch one movie at a time! These little choices are important and not worth sacrificing for a display that is more elegantly simple. No, I don't think I will keep windows 8, perhaps it is better suited for a tablet. I will explore it for awhile longer to be sure, there interesting aspects to it that I do like.
    Last edited by dyinisis; 07 Sep 2012 at 03:54.

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    Windows 8 Enterprise 64-bit (7 Ult, Vista & XP in V-Box)


    I've flogged Windows 8 into working the way I want it to.

    It's a bloody good OS, metro notwithstanding.

    This crap that you can't run it with a mouse is just rubbish.

    It runs just as well without a touch-screen as Win3.1 did.

    I'm running the 64-bit Enterprise RTM, and it has TWO MAJOR FLAWS.

    Runs beautifully, compatibility is reasonable, BUT.......

    1/..It WON'T talk to any of my openGL games. ANY of them. At all.

    2/..It's as ugly as sin.


    I've been running the 32-bit RC on my Acer AS5735 since its release, and
    the little Acer loves it. And it does openGL.

    I can't help but compare its RC to the RTM on this.

    Basically it's a case of 'Nice legs, shame about the face'.

    I want my transparency back. AND openGL compatibility.

    Otherwise, Win 8 won't be my main OS in the foreseeable future.
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    Posts : 636
    Windows 7/8


    The opengl part must be an issue with your video drivers, hopefully they wil lbe fully up to snuff on release. I've run a couple of Open GL games on it and they run fine. (I should pop Blender over on it and see how that goes...)

    NVidia 285 (Yeah it's old, this is my "test machine", AKA my old desktop...

    "Ugly as Sin" fits IMHO
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    Windows 8 RTM (Retinas taking damage...)


    You can't run metro well with a mouse. Stay in desktop as much as you can, and you'll only have to mess with the start screen, which is bearable depending on how you used the old start menu. Try running the windows 7 WDDM 1.1 drivers for OpenGL support. They work well enough, and the windows 8 drivers are still a bit flaky.
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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    The thing you have to realize is that Metro apps are still very immature. Yes, it may be annoying today, when Windows 8 still is not officially released, but in 6 months the landscape will changed quite a bit, with many 3rd party metro apps. Don't judge the OS based on the lack of Metro apps today, that's just silly.

    Yes, you can certainly say "It's not quite ready yet" but then virtually any app you could run in Windows 7 you can still run in Windows 8. So I fail to comprehend the "I'm going back to windows 7 because Metro apps suck" argument. You don't have to use the metro apps, you can do everything exactly as you did in Windows 7.
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    Posts : 636
    Windows 7/8


    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    The thing you have to realize is that Metro apps are still very immature. Yes, it may be annoying today, when Windows 8 still is not officially released, but in 6 months the landscape will changed quite a bit, with many 3rd party metro apps. Don't judge the OS based on the lack of Metro apps today, that's just silly.

    Yes, you can certainly say "It's not quite ready yet" but then virtually any app you could run in Windows 7 you can still run in Windows 8. So I fail to comprehend the "I'm going back to windows 7 because Metro apps suck" argument. You don't have to use the metro apps, you can do everything exactly as you did in Windows 7.
    This is true but in fact the photo app/no-rotation problem is a prime example of why Metro does not belong on the desktop.

    MS designed the entire thing for tablets and phones. you don't NEED a photo rotate in a photo viewer on a tablet or phone do you?

    you NEED one on a desktop though. MS has had plenty of time to create functional metro apps, they have purposely limited their usefulness because they are /supposed/ to be run on a phone where things like printing and rotation have no real place. They are useless on the desktop, not just because they are "new" but because they were /designed/ for "not on a desktop".

    This brings up the fragmentation issues, are you designing for a desktop or a phone? The apps will NOT all work everywhere because desktop users demand SO MUCH MORE from their desktop apps than their phone apps. It really makes the entire idea seem completely silly when you see things like this.
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    Missing in these discussions (most of the time, it seems) is some absolutely compelling reason to make the move to Windows 8. What can I do in Windows 8 that I CANNOT do in Windows 7 (aside from "run Metro apps" - and that's not really a compelling reason: if there's a countepart I can run from Windows 7 then I'd rather do that)? Don't tell me "Metro is cool" - that's not "compelling" even if I agree (and I don't ...).

    OK, presumably, there are some OS improvements but do most people - especially non-technical folks - really care about that?

    "Ugly as sin" - that's being nice, Kat.
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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    There are many OS improvements, such as reduced resource usage, better multitasking, better SSD usage.. Then there are features like the enhanced multi-monitor support, Windows 2 Go, Storage Spaces, Faster boot times, etc..
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    Posts : 636
    Windows 7/8


    Some of those improvements don't acutally exist or are available only to enterprise customers though.

    By itself it's an ok step up, minus some teething problems, scanner driver issues etc and one so severe it prevents my use in anything "necessary" like as an HTPC due to a /worse/ multitasking issue.

    I think the only real reason to upgrade is if you are a fan of the new interface. For everything else... well I wouldn't call any of it "compelling".
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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    It doesn't have to be compelling if you can get it for $40.
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