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Complaints about Windows 8 appear to be mostly lack of knowledge

  1. #11


    Posts : 534
    Windows 7, Windows 8 RP


    Biggest complaint about people looking at Windows Phones? Not enough Apps. Biggest complaint about the Black Berry Playbook? Not enough Apps. Whether Microsoft is bound to make profit (OH NO!!) with Apps is irrelevant, users want Apps.

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  2. #12


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    I've seen that happen a few times where someone complains about a feature missing, then later told it's simply accessible right here. I've also seen a few people literally could care less for Windows 8 because of the Start Screen, or some people just avoiding the Start Screen with some GOD awful fly-out based start menu replacement (Windows Xp anyone?), that FINALLY, FINALLY start using the Start Screen in a way they used the start menu for, and FINALLY started to warm up to it.

    As for app profits, really? A HUGE chunk of current app selection is free, even on Windows Phone 7, most are free. The ones that aren't are usually games and some utility apps. In the Windows Store, and probable Windows Phone Store, apps are/will be $1.49 to both keep crap apps out and keep developers' pricing the same as on other platforms. I believe Microsoft takes 30 percent of each app sale, so they make about 47 cents per purchase, leaving the developer a good dollar for each app, versus about 70 cents for a $0.99 app in apple's app store.

    Then there's limited functionality complaints........ UGH.
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    Really right now, really? Would it KILL you to AT LEAST PUT IN AN EFFORT? There isn't limited functionality, and if there are legitimate complaints, they're usually trivial. Start Screen acts the same as start menu, but with different app launching functionality. It can be a metro app, or Desktop app. If you have multiple monitors, and multiple programs running daily, how is a Start Screen that is only evoked on one screen when you evoke it on that screen a limitation?

    But these have been my observations. I've been using Windows 8 since almost 12 whole months now, in a few weeks, and I've loved it since I first installed the Developer Preview and exclaimed, "Whoa!" at it when the Start Screen appeared. I had a slight learning curve the first week, but smoothest of sailing ever since!
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  3. #13


    I didn't start complaining about W8/Metro by lack of knowledge. I had a look at the Metro Start Screen snapshot and this sufficed for me to say "No. No they are kidding?! No way I will want that on my computer!". And that was the snapshots posted on Microsoft's blog and other reputedly serious websites.
    That was the thing that stopped me straight on the spot. If an OS is designed with this sort of philosophy I don't want to use it already, even before testing it. I have spent hours reading about W8, and what I read confirmed my feelings. I do know it's possible to configure or disable Metro. But this new Modern UI is realy not attractive to me. TBS, I may use W8 in the future and that's why I'm expressing my opinion.
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  4. #14


    Posts : 142
    Windows 8 Enterprise 64-bit (7 Ult, Vista & XP in V-Box)


    My 64-bit Enterprise RTM 90-day trial is rocking along
    nicely now. I've sorted my openGL issues, and am using
    a combination of the Start screen and Classic Shell.

    Yes, I use both ATM, it's a good way to get used to the new
    setup, and I find I'm slowly starting to use Metro more.

    And, with 25+ years experience, 18 of them on Windows, I'm
    certainly no 'newbie' or lacking in knowledge.

    I can happily live with Win 8 now that I've 'tamed' it, and
    it IS growing on me.

    But yes, I DO want transparency back. On THIS machine
    any performance hit is non-existent, and I do like a bit of
    eye-candy.

    After all, it's ME who has to look at it all day......
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  5. #15


    Congats, Kat.
    You have followed the same path as myself. Next step for me, already passed, once I has custmised the Metro screen and got used to, was to turn off classic. Now, no visible start button, but I know it is there and takes me back to the Start (Metro) Screen. No great difference from Windows 7. I am only using the pure metro programs for a couple of the silly, time waster games.
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  6. #16


    Posts : 902
    Win8.1 Pro, Desktop Mode


    Quote Originally Posted by CalBear View Post
    Complaints about Windows 8 appear to be mostly lack of knowledge

    Wow... aren't we full of ourselves.
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  7. #17


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    There are some good points being made. Still - can anybody tell me why I should use Windows 8 rather than Windows 7 (on a normal desktop).

    I have been playing with Windows 8 since day 1 - not as a 'production system', but still trying out a lot of functions. I have no problem with the 'Metro', in fact I find it better than the traditional start menu. The problem I have is that there is no really attractive new function in Windows 8 that would incent me to spend any money on it. My Windows 7 systems run very well and will probably still run for a looong time.
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  8. #18


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    There are some good points being made. Still - can anybody tell me why I should use Windows 8 rather than Windows 7 (on a normal desktop).

    I have been playing with Windows 8 since day 1 - not as a 'production system', but still trying out a lot of functions. I have no problem with the 'Metro', in fact I find it better than the traditional start menu. The problem I have is that there is no really attractive new function in Windows 8 that would incent me to spend any money on it. My Windows 7 systems run very well and will probably still run for a looong time.
    My favorites are the new Program Manager and File Explorer (was Windows Explorer). I particularly like the fact that Program Manager will tell you which programs are using CPU, Memory, Disk and Internet. I monitor disk and internet activity all the time with two small program windows in the right upper corner of my second 24-inch monitor. It really bugs me when there is data going in/out over the internet and I don't know what program is doing it. Of course its something reasonable with Norton or Windows or whatever but I would like to know. My other reason for upgrading is to learn about and maybe eventually to enjoy some Metro apps.

    Are these enough reasons to "recommend" an upgrade? No, probably not but I like to experiment. That's why I'll probably go for a dual boot as I have now with the preview version. Its easy to configure my data/email files so they are available from either system. I want to make sure my many applications and programs used for document/spreadsheet/website development work okay before completely committing to Windows 8.

    Other ideas of Desktop improvements are probably good for a new thread... or replies here.
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  9. #19


    whs. In spite of my obvious liking for Windows 8, I reluctantly have to say, to your first sentence , None whatsoever. I understand there are one or two quite advanced features, which, perhaps, a minority use. I am a fairly straightforward user and, frankly, am still hunting for those "under the hood" features which the pundits are often repeating.
    Unfortunately, I am a new program/OS freak, and like to dig into them as soon as it is possible!
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  10. #20


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Program Manager will tell you which programs are using CPU, Memory, Disk and Internet
    That is the same as the Resource Monitor in Windows 7.
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