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Uncontestable proof that "Metro" is touch only

  1. #21


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    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    It would appear that there are beta testers here that do not understand the design, implemetation, and concept of the benefits and utility of Windows 8 and continue to compare and contrast it to legacy versions of Windows.
    I understand the many benefits of win8, but that does not change the fact that the metro parts are exclusively designed with touch usability in mind, and have only rudimentary mouse functionality added in.

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  2. #22


    Quote Originally Posted by phailyoor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Arpan View Post
    And what has made you conclude that:
    Quote Originally Posted by phailyoor View Post
    and good productivity apps will never be written in metro style.
    This statement of yours has absolutely no relation with any of your previous lines.
    Alright. I guess my last statement was poorly written. What I meant was that Metro apps will never gain equivalent usability or productivity to their desktop equivalents, especially when using mouse. They will always be worse for mouse users.
    You seem to have wiggled your way around to change the subject from your original to "production". Why didn't you OP with that subject instead?

    OK. I'll give you that 8 was designed for touch, if you give me that they kept the "desktop user" in mind. Fair? Your desktop is just the same (context menu and all), save that there's no Start Menu.

    Here's one I'll throw at you -> What's quicker? -> The finger or the mouse? Shall we have a showdown at the O.K. Coral to see?
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  3. #23


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    Oops, you quoted before I changed the spelling if implementation. I wouldn't call it rudimentary. One does not need Win32 context menu functionality when using WinRT services. I do not think you can support the phrase "exclusively designed." There is a high level of mouse functionality within WinRT. It is different than the functionality in Win32. I am getting a headache.
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  4. #24


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    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Oops, you quoted before I changed the spelling if implementation. I wouldn't call it rudimentary. One does not need Win32 context menu functionality when using WinRT services. I do not think you can support the phrase "exclusively designed." There is a high level of mouse functionality within WinRT. It is different than the functionality in Win32. I am getting a headache.
    Can you explain this "high level of mouse functionality within WinRT?" It seems to me that it just barely works, and not very well at that.
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  5. #25


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    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by phailyoor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Arpan View Post
    And what has made you conclude that:

    This statement of yours has absolutely no relation with any of your previous lines.
    Alright. I guess my last statement was poorly written. What I meant was that Metro apps will never gain equivalent usability or productivity to their desktop equivalents, especially when using mouse. They will always be worse for mouse users.
    You seem to have wiggled your way around to change the subject from your original to "production". Why didn't you OP with that subject instead?

    OK. I'll give you that 8 was designed for touch, if you give me that they kept the "desktop user" in mind. Fair? Your desktop is just the same (context menu and all), save that there's no Start Menu.

    Here's one I'll throw at you -> What's quicker? -> The finger or the mouse? Shall we have a showdown at the O.K. Coral to see?
    True. The inclusion of the Desktop is good enough for most desktop uses IMO. I'll meet you there for the showdown. Bring your best fingers, and I'll bring my best mice.
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  6. #26


    OK, phailyoor. It was a great morning forum discussion. We learn a lot from each other. I think that's what it's all about. I gotta go soon.

    I still have all ten and carry with me at all times. How many mice do you have and how do you transport them?
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  7. #27


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    Right Click Bottom Left > utility menu for Win32 functions
    Left Bottom Corner > Start
    Right Corners > Edge UI
    Top and Bottom Left > Thumbnail Apps to multitask
    Right Click Thumbnails (along edge) to close or move Snap
    Top Hand Center to Snap
    Right Click > all apps
    Control Scroll Wheel to resize and group block in the start screen
    Control Scroll Wheel to resize and group block in the all apps
    Control Scroll Wheel and left click to group and move blocks
    In metro IE > left and right center edge arrows to go forward and back
    In metro IE > Right Click metro IE to tab windows and close or switch to
    And all the pinning and unpinning, and uninstalling and other features from right click on tiles
    Each APP has its own distinct mouse functionality with some shared uniformity.
    There is a lot of functionality that the mouse can do that touch cannot do as easily as the mousey.

    I could go on but I still have a headache.
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  8. #28


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    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Right Click Bottom Left > utility menu for Win32 functions
    Left Bottom Corner > Start
    Right Corners > Edge UI
    Top and Bottom Left > Thumbnail Apps to multitask
    Right Click Thumbnails (along edge) to close or move Snap
    Top Hand Center to Snap
    Right Click > all apps
    Control Scroll Wheel to resize and group block in the start screen
    Control Scroll Wheel to resize and group block in the all apps
    Control Scroll Wheel and left click to group and move blocks
    In metro IE > left and right center edge arrows to go forward and back
    In metro IE > Right Click metro IE to tab windows and close or switch to
    And all the pinning and unpinning, and uninstalling and other features from right click on tiles
    Each APP has its own distinct mouse functionality with some shared uniformity.
    There is a lot of functionality that the mouse can do that touch cannot do as easily as the mousey.

    I could go on but I still have a headache.
    Except for winx, these are all features that substitute for touch functions.
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  9. #29


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    I am guessing, you don't like Windows 8. I do not have a touch computer. Therefore it HAS NOTHING to do with touch. No touch. Can you back up that phrase "they are substitutes?" It is a shared concept and implementation of functionality. That is why Windows 8 is so amazing. The code must be astoundingly complex. It is almost unimaginable that such flexibility and utility can be made to function effortlessly with logical ascii symbols (the code). No touch. Metro is not touch only.
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  10. #30


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    No context menu? Really? What do you suppose happens when your right click within an app? Its command bar appears providing items that you don't see and can act on, much of which is the context menu.

    But that's not enough evidence. Especially since one of the guidelines of metro app design touted by Microsoft is to make the app workable with both touch and mouse.
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