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What is Metro?

  1. #31


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    There are a ton of "features" in Windows that I completely ignore. I never have used libraries, the Start menu, Windows Media Center, UAC, Restore, and a bunch of other parts of Windows. I also don't use Metro, charms bar, edge interfacing, and I skip the start screen ( thanks to Skip Metro Suite Settings). To me, if I SKIP using Metro and Charms, they are just a "feature" that I don't use. Now some people love the Start menu or Restore or libraries and good for them but I don't hear folks yelling that Windows is a failure because they are included in Windows. All of Metro can easily be ignored, soo... ignore it.

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  2. #32


    Johnpombrio, Technicaly you are right it's easy to kill Metro. However the problem is more than that. The problem is the attitude and vision at Microsoft which goes against customers'interrets. MS wants you to use Metro, they want you to use the App Store, Bing and other commercial traps.
    Quote Originally Posted by Johnpombrio
    thanks to Skip Metro Suite Settings
    Will they dare blocking Metro Start Menu killers or dare preventing Windows to boot if you bypass Metro in the future? The way they are talking we have reasons to fear. Until now all the features you don't use were not strategical ones. Metro is strategical to MS. Metro is what they bet money on right now and what they rely to boost they revenues on, not on OS sales anymore. So far what MS wants you to see is this:
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  3. #33


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    Server 2012 / 8.0


    MS makes that available (fun time) only if you want it. They are not a hideous monster. They just want to offer a cool product that is beneficial to them and the user. The computer is NOT for serious desktop professionals ONLY. If anyone wants to load a dock launcher or start button, they can.

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  4. #34


    mdmd, I agree but again, we are talking about Microsoft's intents for the present and for the future, their commercialist vision and stubborness. It's not like we can't hack w8 to make it better. Please read my above post one more time.
    Quote Originally Posted by you
    The computer is NOT for serious desktop professionals ONLY.
    Around me, I don't know a signle person who has bought a computer and doesn't have a professional or semi-professional or geek/advanced use for it. Even 10 years old kids need a PC for their homworks sometimes. There MAY be poeple who use computers only for leisure and never for anything serious. I think of those who use it as a game console but from what I'v read W8 is a disaster[sic] for games. (link somewhere in this forum). So those who don't play graphic intensive games and rather tweet, chat, facebook, blog, shoot live pics etc are unlikely to use W8 for desktop because they have a tablet/iPad or a smartphone already.
    Quote Originally Posted by you
    START... Desktop
    Yes, that pretty snapshot above is what would my Start Screen look like if I was forced to use it. But at the risk of repeated myself it's not what Microsoft hopes you do with it. They take 30% on every App Store sale. 'nuf said.
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  5. #35


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    I don't know what disaster gaming is on Windows 8, other than the "disaster" Gabe Newell and Valve are making it out to be because Microsoft, they feel, is stepping on their turf. My gamer friend was telling me that Microsoft refuses to work with, so that probably is causing more angst for them. 8 is better than 7 for gaming simply as it's all around more resource efficient.

    As for those app, yes, 30 percent is taken. They are the ones providing the store as the host. It's no different than WalMart or Target doing the same. Even then, a good chunk of apps right now are free. There aren't a lot of paid ones.

    There's an article that does a good job at reasoning why Windows 8 came out the way it did. If Microsoft made a touch OS, like taking Windows Phone and cut the Phone out of it and put in Tablet like android and ios, we'd have yet another phablet that isn't any better than the others. Now, as they want the world to use Windows 8, that suggests they could be forcing it. Or, it could suggest they want a major change to the PC, so they can continue developing Windows in their fashion.
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  6. #36


    Manchester CT
    Posts : 693
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit GA


    Well, gaming with Windows 8 on the desktop has been benchmarked and compares favorably with Win7 and beating it in several games. Valve's biggest grip is that innocent little Games for Windows box in Metro. It suspiciously is very similar to Steam and Blizz methods of gaming and is controlled entirely by MS permission to have a game put there.
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  7. #37


    Posts : 142
    Windows 8 Enterprise 64-bit (7 Ult, Vista & XP in V-Box)


    If it won't play well with openGL games and
    some older DX9 games (and it doesn't) then
    it isn't much use to me for gaming.

    So, it looks like, at least on one machine, I'll
    be remaining on 7.
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  8. #38


    Posts : 2
    Windows 8 Pro x64


    All this games works fine on my computer, I just installed DX9 and all the problems disappeared.

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  9. #39


    I don't think an OS install can stay out-of-the-box if it lacks crucial features for its user. Poeple are going to act very swiftly to fix the issues and unofficial patches are being developed almost instantly the moment a problem is noticed. The reaction to that is amazingly fast and effective. I'm sure that all the issues about W8 we are talking about now will be forgotten and long fixed in a few weeks or months and a perfectly able and customized W8 OS will be a given. It's just a shame that Microsoft can't do it. That beneolent poeple or organisations must do the job for them. But OK, we'll survive.
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  10. #40


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Out of the box 8 isn't as different than 7. In 7 with the start menu, I had to change it so the amount of links shown isn't 10, it was closer to 15 or more so I could see more of the All Programs list without scrolling. I also had to clean it up by getting rid of the superfluous shortcuts. Then, I had to change the view again so Downloads and I believe Videos along with removing a few Control Panel links.

    Now in 8, I have to pin my Libraries (I can pin my three custom libraries unlike 7), some Explorer links, Task Manager, Control Panel, and removing the superfluous tiles out of view and cleaning up the All Apps screen. The benefits? I can swiftly get across my programs and apps and folders quicker and easier than 7. It's liking combining the original purpose of the Desktop with the organization of the start menu as I can group tiles together.
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