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  1. #1


    Posts : 142
    Windows 8 Enterprise 64-bit (7 Ult, Vista & XP in V-Box)

    OK, here we go....


    The download of the Enterprise RTM (64-bit, 90-day trial) is nearly complete.

    I'll be trying it both as an upgrade and as a stand-alone install.

    Liked the CP, had major issues with the RP.

    I'll give the RTM a go, that's only fair.

    But I'm primed to be disappointed.

    I already know that I loathe the 'new look' of 8, and have already
    worked around/ignored the Metro screen (thanks, Ivo...) and am
    waiting with bated breath for a decent Aero skin..

    The game-breaker, for me, is whether it will run openGL and/or
    DX9 games.

    If so, great.

    If not, it won't be lasting long.



    Back in the days of GEOS on the C64, I dreamed of an OS that would
    do everything that I ever wanted, simply by a mouse-click ( I use
    single-click, and really can't understand those who don't).

    That OS was Windows 7 Ultimate. I've been running it since the beta, and
    have never had a problem or issue with it.

    SO FAR, Windows 8 doesn't come close. We shall see....

    **A giggle-byte to go.....**

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  2. #2


    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    The download of the Enterprise RTM (64-bit, 90-day trial) is nearly complete.

    I'll be trying it both as an upgrade and as a stand-alone install.

    Liked the CP, had major issues with the RP.

    I'll give the RTM a go, that's only fair.

    But I'm primed to be disappointed.

    I already know that I loathe the 'new look' of 8, and have already
    worked around/ignored the Metro screen (thanks, Ivo...) and am
    waiting with bated breath for a decent Aero skin..

    The game-breaker, for me, is whether it will run openGL and/or
    DX9 games.

    If so, great.

    If not, it won't be lasting long.



    Back in the days of GEOS on the C64, I dreamed of an OS that would
    do everything that I ever wanted, simply by a mouse-click ( I use
    single-click, and really can't understand those who don't).

    That OS was Windows 7 Ultimate. I've been running it since the beta, and
    have never had a problem or issue with it.

    SO FAR, Windows 8 doesn't come close.

    **A giggle-byte to go.....**
    Why it should not run dx9 games?
    Aero skin not possible, because blur is removed and for now, cannot be restored. Seems like MS removed code for it.
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  3. #3


    Posts : 142
    Windows 8 Enterprise 64-bit (7 Ult, Vista & XP in V-Box)


    Win 8 CP and RP would NOT run older DX9 or openGL games.

    My GeForce GT555M may as well have been an old TNT2.

    To ME, that's a game-breaker (no pun intended).

    And anyone can/could/will write the code for an Aero add-on.

    Look at what Ivo and others have done to return the Start Orb/menu to Win 8.

    An Aero add-in CAN be done, and almost certainly WILL be.
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  4. #4


    Posts : 1,925
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    kala, why do you quote a 33 line message, only to add 3 lines of comment that only applies to a small section of your quoted text?

    You should only quote the relevant parts of the message.
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  5. #5


    Kat, I'd be interested in what you discover with the RTM. If DX9 is a no-go that's a serious issue. (Yeah, folks, some people are serious about their games. )
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  6. #6


    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    kala, why do you quote a 33 line message, only to add 3 lines of comment that only applies to a small section of your quoted text?

    You should only quote the relevant parts of the message.
    Maybe because, its easier??

    Aero is there, just not the blur, transparency can be enabled, but it looks messy, but if you are interested to try yourself: then regedit.exe HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\DWM ColorizationGlassAttribute, set to 2 and then kill dwm.exe in task manager.

    But as I said, blur cannot be brought back as just yet, I know few guys who have been trying to port it from RP without any success.
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  7. #7


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    I would imagine DirectX 9 gaming is still supported. At least for me, I have a DX9 game installed that runs more flawlessly than 64 bit or even a 32 bit VM of 7.
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  8. #8


    Posts : 636
    Windows 7/8


    So far I've only tried Diablo 3 which is a DirectX 9 game and another MMO game that is cross platform and uses Open GL and both run just fine on a GeForce 465 (I think) with the Windows 8 CP and a proper nvidia driver installed. Have not installed them on RTM yet though...

    DX11 is backwards compatible with DX 9. But sometimes "Stupid Installers" (or launchers) [tm][pat. pend.] will refuse to install without an exact version match. In that case, the game will need a fix (That is really a bug in the game) to work. Or you can hand install the DX 9 runtime.

    I've seen that that can fail for some people, you may need to enable .net 3.5 which is built into Windows 8 but disabled by default in the programs and features control panel before the DX9 installer will work properly.

    Finally, you may have to run the game with windows 7 or even XP compatibility mode from the short cut (Or set it on the real game .exe if launched from a launcher).
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  9. #9


    Posts : 142
    Windows 8 Enterprise 64-bit (7 Ult, Vista & XP in V-Box)


    Installing in VirtualBox now.

    It won't upgrade over my Win 7 setup, and I've no desire to spend all day reinstalling software.

    So, I'll play with it in VB, and decide whether to do a standalone install later or not.
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  10. #10


    Posts : 142
    Windows 8 Enterprise 64-bit (7 Ult, Vista & XP in V-Box)


    Aaaaand, we're in.

    So far, so good.

    Posting on it now.

    I'm off for a bit of a look around......
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