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The real genius of windows 8!

  1. #11


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    7, 8 whatever


    Quote Originally Posted by slacker3343 View Post
    Ok, I get it everyone is having fun with me calling it genius.
    haha no, there is no sarcasm intended from me, nor anything else negative. I'm just chillin' in a good mood despite crappy circumstances.

    You're new like me, so if anything, the others get to poke fun at us and no fun poked in between. heh

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  2. #12


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    windows7 x 64 windows 8 x 64


    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel View Post
    haha no, there is no sarcasm intended from me, nor anything else negative. I'm just chillin' in a good mood despite crappy circumstances.

    You're new like me, so if anything, the others get to poke fun at us and no fun poked in between. heh
    I'm not offended at all I can will admit if I'm wrong....when you start a thread like this you have to be willing to take a few hits and I enjoy that. That doesn't phase me just wanting to make sure I said "I get it"! But I can tell you, from the stand point of windows 8 viability I'm not wrong. Just hopeful but I'll keep my copy of windows 7 and UE linux handy.
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  3. #13


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Oh, I never even thought about that! STUPID TOOLBARS!!! That makes me happy.
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  4. #14


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    Often the developer is able to provide programs free - because of the toolbars etc that are offered.

    What is going to happen to all those great free programs?

    What effect is MS taking a 30% going to have on the cost of programs - and what is the situation going to be with free versions - the ones that are pretty good on their own, but they hope you are going to buy the pro version?
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  5. #15


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    Windows 7/8


    Metro apps will contain built in ads and the free programs will get paid that way (supposedly). I mean that is the plan. How the programmer gets paid and how much is a bit of a mystery but theoretically that's the way it's going to work.

    Microsoft Advertising Platform
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  6. #16


    Quote Originally Posted by slacker3343 View Post
    The real genius of windows 8 isnít in the structure of the metro screen; itís in the potential of the app store or in the Linux world the repository. Linux / unix has been using them system for far longer than anyone else. But itís the ability to add software with 0 efforts that makes windows 8 more flexible.
    People will just write it off as an Apple Appstore ripoff, I don't get how MS had the market for decades and only until Apple has a successful Appstore and they have to latch on to the idea.

    As an IT admin I can download all my subscription software from the same place for many years and no place to do that for Retail Windows apps.
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  7. #17


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    Well Apple had a rather small closed market. It was a lot easier for them to set up an app store system.

    Microsoft has traditionally let other people do their own thing with windows. And it really has worked well that way. I'm not sure that Windows NEEDS an app store really, well though with everyone else going that way they sort of have to now. If I am going to buy software on-line though, I'd just as soon pay a developer directly so that they get ALL the money, not just 70% of it with a 30% "doing buisness with you" tax going to Microsoft.

    The idea that Microsoft is going to be making money of of other peoples products AND advertising in Windows besides selling Windows itself now is a bit disconcerting, even if it is almost a forgone conclusion tat they have to (because everyone else is).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Got2bereal View Post
    People will just write it off as an Apple Appstore ripoff, I don't get how MS had the market for decades and only until Apple has a successful Appstore and they have to latch on to the idea.

    As an IT admin I can download all my subscription software from the same place for many years and no place to do that for Retail Windows apps.
    Let's face facts apple ripped it off from Linux/Unix. But I understand the apple freaks well they think apple invented everything. But most of this technology used today by Apple / Android is linux/unix based they are making billions of open sources material Apple will never admit it and Android is another flavor of Linux all on its own.
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  9. #19


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    Quote Originally Posted by FSeal View Post
    The idea that Microsoft is going to be making money of of other peoples products AND advertising in Windows besides selling Windows itself now is a bit disconcerting, even if it is almost a forgone conclusion tat they have to (because everyone else is).
    Microsoft if putting and maintaining the infrastructure to support the Apps, they ensure the security is there so that they are clean and safe and also ensure that Apps are not pirated. This all benefits the developer so that they can make their money but it comes at a cost which is the 30% take. I can't imagine that you would think Android method is better considering there is no control or protection for the developers and users end up getting Apps with virus'.

    That 30% Microsoft charges drops to a lower percentage if the App sells well, this will hopefully entice developers to make useful Apps as opposed to stupid fart Apps. You don't have to be a full fledged programmer to create Apps, even the hobbyist that can do a little programming can make some money by developing Apps. I don't see where the issue is, its a win win situation and that includes the user who has a choice to install Apps or not. Lastly, Microsoft does not advertise in Windows, Ads are restricted to Apps and those are usually free with the option to purchase to remove ads.
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  10. #20


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    Quote Originally Posted by R0bR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FSeal View Post
    The idea that Microsoft is going to be making money of of other peoples products AND advertising in Windows besides selling Windows itself now is a bit disconcerting, even if it is almost a forgone conclusion tat they have to (because everyone else is).
    Microsoft if putting and maintaining the infrastructure to support the Apps, they ensure the security is there so that they are clean and safe and also ensure that Apps are not pirated. This all benefits the developer so that they can make their money but it comes at a cost which is the 30% take. I can't imagine that you would think Android method is better considering there is no control or protection for the developers and users end up getting Apps with virus'.

    That 30% Microsoft charges drops to a lower percentage if the App sells well, this will hopefully entice developers to make useful Apps as opposed to stupid fart Apps. You don't have to be a full fledged programmer to create Apps, even the hobbyist that can do a little programming can make some money by developing Apps. I don't see where the issue is, its a win win situation and that includes the user who has a choice to install Apps or not. Lastly, Microsoft does not advertise in Windows, Ads are restricted to Apps and those are usually free with the option to purchase to remove ads.
    Or the apps on android get pirated, which is silly considering android itself is almost a pirated copy of ios!

    And as for the toolbars being was to keep the app free, there are two routes. Charge $1.49 for the app, or mitigate advertising into the app, which so far has been kept to near the end of the app's panorama.
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