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Windows 8 really isn't that bad

  1. #41


    Welcome to the forum pinklotus. I would not upgrade over your Windows 7. Try it in a virtual machine, but wait till October before trying to upgrade over Windows 7.

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  2. #42


    DeLand, FL
    Posts : 380
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit


    Running the RTM in Virtual Box. It looks and seems to work fine. I'm sure it will be OK.

    For myself, though, I personally will not rebuild a machine to Win8. I can see absolutely nothing that I could accomplish with it that I can't already do with my Win7 equipment. There simply isn't anything about it that I consider an upgrade in any way, shape or form. Aside from tinkering with it as a new piece of technology (which I can do in a Virtual Machine) it's just not something I'm going to waste time doing. No, it's not "horrible" - it's just "different". Like trading in one phillips-head screwdriver for another brand of the same thing with a different colored label on it. Zero sum game. Not worth the trouble.

    Since I just bought a new machine I will take advantage of the $15 update offer so I can build a VM around it. I'll use it as a sandbox for testing my desktop applications to make sure they will still run in the field. Beyond that it just doesn't add value to any equipment I have or anything I'm doing.

    Hope they make a killing selling "Surface" tablets with it, however even that won't pry my retina iPad out of my hands. As for my software development tools I have VS2008 and accessories and plan no Metro development so there's just nowhere Microsoft that I need to spend any bucks right now. I'm in good shape. I'll just observe this thing from the sidelines for awhile!

    -Max
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  3. #43


    Posts : 534
    Windows 7, Windows 8 RP


    Quote Originally Posted by Fredledingue View Post
    Huh! How complicated! Why not leaving the Charm visible all the time to avoid all that mouse choregraphy? .... AKA "The Task Bar".
    If it's THAT difficult to make a simple mouse gesture than just use WIN + C.
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  4. #44


    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    The DP and Enterprise are the only versions that can correctly install my sound driver.
    I'm very confused as to why the Enterprise would handle your sound driver any differently than say the Windows 8 Pro version. Seems very odd to me.
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  5. #45


    Ohio
    Posts : 473
    Windows 8 Pro


    OK--For what it's worth, I'm putting my two cents worth in again. For all who disagree with me, I respect your opinion. Most of you probably know more about this stuff than I do, so maybe you know something that I don't. I played with Win8 pre-release. Yesterday, I downloaded and installed the Evaluation Version. I couldn't see much difference. They did give more instructions such as: "Tap this" or, "swipe that". With a mouse??? My final conclusion is this: Windows 8, plus a keyboard, plus a mouse simply do not mix. Sort of like oil and water. Maybe for the hand held gadgets it's OK. But not for a keyboard and mouse. Some of you may feel differently and that's OK. But, that's how I feel anyway.
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  6. #46


    Quote Originally Posted by RobR
    If it's THAT difficult to make a simple mouse gesture than just use WIN + C.
    You don't get it: Why they are making the charm disapearing, why they are not leting it visible? Why no taskbar, from which you can do eveything on the bottom of the Metro Start Screen? Why no "minimize" button on the Start Screen? Why full screen by defaut without any ohter choice? This I don't understand. On phone screens it makes sens, but on desktop display it's counter productive.
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  7. #47


    Posts : 534
    Windows 7, Windows 8 RP


    Quote Originally Posted by Fredledingue View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RobR
    If it's THAT difficult to make a simple mouse gesture than just use WIN + C.
    You don't get it: Why they are making the charm disapearing, why they are not leting it visible? Why no taskbar, from which you can do eveything on the bottom of the Metro Start Screen? Why no "minimize" button on the Start Screen? Why full screen by defaut without any ohter choice? This I don't understand. On phone screens it makes sens, but on desktop display it's counter productive.
    No I totally get it, you don't like the Start Screen and want it to be like the regular desktop which is basically what you described above.
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  8. #48


    Ohio
    Posts : 473
    Windows 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by pinklotus View Post
    Hi

    I have a question

    I'm using 7 but I really would love to try 8 ....

    Is windows 8 really worth it to upgrade to?

    will this version progress or it's the last audition of 8?

    Is it the right time to install 8 or should i wait a little longer?


    thanks
    If I were you, I would find a way to try it before buying it.
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  9. #49


    Australia
    Posts : 716
    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    Must admit I've lost interest in Win 8. Will probably buy $39 upgrade and use on backup desktop machine as upgrade to Vista, to keep up to speed, but won't get serious about possibility of using it as main machine until at least SP1 is out.

    Aside from anything else I'm using extreme mobo and CPU with SLI bridge for 3 GTX graphics cards, and therein lies the problem ... forget it! Even with only one card still get lockups and occasional "purple" screen with error message to the effect: "video card stopped working and has recovered". Have tried both HDMI and DVI connect to monitor.

    And that's after downloading correct drivers for Win8 from NVIDIA online search for drivers, and doing stand alone installation on separate HD. Aaaaaaagggggghhhhh! Enough is enough!
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  10. #50


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Fredledingue View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by RobR
    If it's THAT difficult to make a simple mouse gesture than just use WIN + C.
    You don't get it: Why they are making the charm disapearing, why they are not leting it visible? Why no taskbar, from which you can do eveything on the bottom of the Metro Start Screen? Why no "minimize" button on the Start Screen? Why full screen by defaut without any ohter choice? This I don't understand. On phone screens it makes sens, but on desktop display it's counter productive.
    On a phone, it wouldn't make sense. You have a 4 inch screen that you have to swipe the edges around with and overall wouldn't be a good experience as it isn't natural to use with such a small screen. Windows 8 is more comfortable to use with tablets and larger screens. Things aren't always visible all the time because that's the point of the design. The point is that one uses the WHOLE screen to display content, like IE 10. Right now, the UI of Eight Forums is the only thing I'm looking at. I don't need to see the taskbar, don't need to see the Settings charm, don't need to see what's playing in Xbox Music, don't need to see the Start button, ect. If I'm on the Desktop, I can just as easily get to the hot corners and hit the Start button just as easy as it is to click on the Start orb in 7. But if you don't need fullscreen apps, don't use them. If the Start Screen is what bugs you, ok, great. I don't understand how that's a huge problem when at most, I don't see what's on the Desktop for a few seconds when I click on Desktop app tile. I don't get how it's counterproductive to have your Desktop windows as they, go to the Start Screen, and start a new program and quickly get back to the Desktop as you left it.

    There is a metro taskbar on the left side, the reason it's not on the bottom because if you were on the Desktop, it would become a PITA to navigate around with. Maybe later in the future when the Desktop isn't the commonly used UI, that will happen. But in the meantime, the Desktop HAS to be there.
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