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Windows 8 really isn't that bad

  1. #21


    Ohio
    Posts : 473
    Windows 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by jeffrys View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Frank1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    I wouldn't lump Windows 8 into the same bin as ME or Vista....it's far better performing and less flawed than either of those 2 OS's were. And for dual monitor use, they have made some really nice improvements in Windows 8.
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    I wouldn't either. I would put it in a bin below them as far as ease of use is concerned. Maybe there is something you see in 8 that I don't see. I didn't like Vista but I would choose it over 8. So, as far as using it on desktops or even lap tops, I respectfully disagree with you. But this is only my opinion and I have been known to be wrong.
    Frank.....you must be joking

    Jeff
    Jeff--Not really, but I will retract my comments a little. At the time that I responded to the post, I was a little ticked off while working with Win 8 and trying to figure out even how to get out of an application; and I was very frustrated at the interface. But thinking about it after I responded, I would have to say if I had a choice between Vista and 8, I suppose I would just make up my mind to get used to 8. I still don't like it though; and for using a mouse and keyboard I can see no advantage to it over 7. I would pick 7 over 8 anytime. But when it comes to Vista--well I suppose I would pick 8. Who knows, tomorrow I might change my mind.

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  2. #22


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Windows 8 isn't real difficult to use with a mouse, you just use the mouse in a different fashion than you did before. It just takes using the corners.
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  3. #23


    Jimbo, You'r the man with your screenshot you almost converted me to w8!
    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45
    What was seriously lacking here was a total lack of documentation explaining to people how to organize their work and of course the metro tiles and screens could do with a bit of "De-Uglification".
    And you klnow why? Because that's not what Microsoft intended you to do. What Microsoft wants is that one billion consumers start using the services that will come preinstalled on the Start screen. Also Microsoft wants everybody to use Metro apps from now on because it's their maoistic computer-cultural revolution. They don't expect you to use Foxit, Notepad and Irfan View in 5 years. So yes you managed to arrange your Start Screen but that's not what they hoped that you would do with it. + I'v read that stuffs can be added to your Start Screen as time goes, everytime you install a new software but also when the new sftware installs an update. I won't be surprised that Windows update reinstalls all the craps you didn't want.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo
    Give it a go -- once you get the principle it's not so horrible.
    No, indeed. Yet I'm still saying that the original idea of the Metro Start Screen is flawed in its concept. I don't like the fact that the screen is totaly coverered by the Start, unlike the Start Menu which opens only one or two or three collumns without concealing what you are doing. An app launcher which always covers the full screen is not my preference. I also don't understand why the icons must be so large that they must be called "tiles"? AFAIK I'm not yet senile to the point I need a huge tile to point my mouse to. Maybe there is a way to make the tiles icon-sized? But then why not using the desktop instead? And that still wouldn't solve the full screen issue. But anyway, thank you very much for sharing your experience and your advices!
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  4. #24


    Ohio
    Posts : 473
    Windows 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Windows 8 isn't real difficult to use with a mouse, you just use the mouse in a different fashion than you did before. It just takes using the corners.
    Coke--One of the problems that I have is the fact that it does not work most of the time. I can move the mouse at the corners, back and forth, over and over. If I'm lucky it Will bring up what it should the first time. Most of the times I have to keep on trying. I'll go to the left side, the right side and sometimes even at the top and nothing happens until it finally works. Maybe it's me--maybe I'm doing it wrong--maybe I have it setup wrong, but to tell you the truth, I've just about given up on it.
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  5. #25


    Quote Originally Posted by jeffrys View Post
    Pparks1, I do not understand you:
    "For you, you don't like to click 4-5 times to launch a spreadsheet...and that's totally fine. For me, the way I find my spreadsheets is to click Windows explorer, find my file and double click it"

    Why do you double click, you should only click once.......
    Not unless you change the behavior. I don't want to SINGLE click a file under Windows explorer and have it open. When I single click it, I want to select it (perhaps for copy, move, delete, etc).

    Quote Originally Posted by jeffrys View Post
    So for an Excel docu I need 2 clicks total
    Ok, that seems right.
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  6. #26


    Posts : 534
    Windows 7, Windows 8 RP


    Quote Originally Posted by Frank1 View Post
    Coke--One of the problems that I have is the fact that it does not work most of the time. I can move the mouse at the corners, back and forth, over and over. If I'm lucky it Will bring up what it should the first time. Most of the times I have to keep on trying. I'll go to the left side, the right side and sometimes even at the top and nothing happens until it finally works. Maybe it's me--maybe I'm doing it wrong--maybe I have it setup wrong, but to tell you the truth, I've just about given up on it.
    Perhaps you're not doing it right. If you just put the mouse in the corner and leave it there after a slight delay you'll get the white charms then if you continue to drag you get the charms with the black background. However there is a delay doing it this way because Microsoft said they didn't want to trigger the charms if the user just happened to put the mouse in that corner unintentionally. If you put the mouse into and out of the corner quickly it doesn't come up. If you want the charms or the left side navigation to come up quickly it's more of a gesture movement with your mouse, move your mouse to the corner and down and they both pop up right away. Between accessing those areas, Windows Key and using Alt-Tab navigation between Metro and the desktop is a breeze. I'm using an old Dell Latitude D620 and it's very responsive to navigate.
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  7. #27


    Posts : 26
    Windows 8


    I liked my first car because of the utility it provided me. It was fundamentally safe, and it kept me dry when driving in the rain. Looking back at it after getting better cars I realized how "poor" my first car driving experiences were.

    Windows 8 feels much like a first car to me. It's utilitarian in design with little consideration for aesthetics or the finer aspects of an intuitive, elegant and cohesive UI experience. It will get me to where I want to go but it's not a fine driving experience.

    It is going to frustrate people who are looking for an intuitive and cohesive UI. I can't imagine walking my friends and family through the UI over the phone when they have problems. There is a great YouTube video of a gentleman having his father use Windows 8. That YouTube experience will be repeated many times in the coming months.

    I am typing this using my new RTM Windows 8 install. I've learned to navigate effectively and have come to appreciate some of the new features, particularly the full screen IE.

    Do I think Microsoft did a good job? No. This could have been so much better.

    Will millions of people buy it. Yes, they really don't have much choice. Apple is too expensive a proposition for many and Linux is still too esoteric.

    Will people upgrade slowly? Making it cheap will expedite the upgrades. It will depend on the aggregate reactions to it once it is released. No doubt some of the under the cover upgraded features are an improvement.
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  8. #28


    Palm Coast FLorida
    Posts : 370
    Windows 8 Pro ($39.99 upgrade)


    installed windows 8 64bit rtm, it is horrid. I have been using windows xp and 7 for years, windows 8 is an absolute mess.

    drivers not installing in correct places, sound driver not working, simple functions still hidden, two UI's, who thought of that, i predict some people are going to fired at Microsoft for this one.

    Nothing in 8 is better than in 7, not one single thing. I liked the CP edition because it was something new, but when it comes to actually using windows 8 for something it fails over and over again.

    Oh well, was looking forward to a new OS to tweak, this ain't worth my time.

    Sorry Microsoft, you are completely out of touch, if this is your stepping stone into the future, then you just stepped off a cliff, the ground below is scattered with sharp rocks, the impact will rip you to shreds and thus ends the saga of microsoft.
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  9. #29


    Adelaide
    Posts : 1,338
    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)


    Quote Originally Posted by Frank1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Windows 8 isn't real difficult to use with a mouse, you just use the mouse in a different fashion than you did before. It just takes using the corners.
    Coke--One of the problems that I have is the fact that it does not work most of the time. I can move the mouse at the corners, back and forth, over and over. If I'm lucky it Will bring up what it should the first time. Most of the times I have to keep on trying. I'll go to the left side, the right side and sometimes even at the top and nothing happens until it finally works. Maybe it's me--maybe I'm doing it wrong--maybe I have it setup wrong, but to tell you the truth, I've just about given up on it.
    I have the opposite problem.

    If I want to:

    • Close a full screen program, the "Charms Bar" always pops out and covers the window controls.
    • Start the first item pinned on the Taskbar, the "Metro Button" pops out and covers the icon.
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  10. #30


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by nick View Post
    I liked my first car because of the utility it provided me. It was fundamentally safe, and it kept me dry when driving in the rain. Looking back at it after getting better cars I realized how "poor" my first car driving experiences were.

    Windows 8 feels much like a first car to me. It's utilitarian in design with little consideration for aesthetics or the finer aspects of an intuitive, elegant and cohesive UI experience. It will get me to where I want to go but it's not a fine driving experience.

    It is going to frustrate people who are looking for an intuitive and cohesive UI. I can't imagine walking my friends and family through the UI over the phone when they have problems. There is a great YouTube video of a gentleman having his father use Windows 8. That YouTube experience will be repeated many times in the coming months.

    I am typing this using my new RTM Windows 8 install. I've learned to navigate effectively and have come to appreciate some of the new features, particularly the full screen IE.

    Do I think Microsoft did a good job? No. This could have been so much better.

    Will millions of people buy it. Yes, they really don't have much choice. Apple is too expensive a proposition for many and Linux is still too esoteric.

    Will people upgrade slowly? Making it cheap will expedite the upgrades. It will depend on the aggregate reactions to it once it is released. No doubt some of the under the cover upgraded features are an improvement.
    The UI seems non-intuitive or non-cohesive at first, but with a little effort, it's not. I find navigation to be splendid, but when I first started using Windows 8 almost a year ago (wow), I was logging out to shut down for the first few days as I didn't realize I do that in the Settings charm. Personally, I would had wished the Start Screen and Desktop were better meshed together, especially iconography and colors, but with a bit of effort, I can make that happen myself. But as for iconography....
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