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Windows 8 really isn't that bad

  1. #11


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Rules basically: 1) -- BE TOTALLY RUTHLESS with the number of tiles you have on the start menu -- for instance I've got rid of ALL the supplied ones's - I don't need live tiles for weather, news, Photos (have my own app for that - photoshop), travel details in timbuctoo or wherever, XBOX etc -- I can do all this much more conveniently on a smart phone which is where these apps belong anyway (or possibly a tablet).

    I've replaced the Invasive IE on the start menu with the "Bog standard" IE so I can click it on the start menu if I'm in the start menu screen - and I'll get the normal IE rather than the metro full screen version.

    2) delink things like PDF reader, Music, etc from the default metro app to your own applications - say foxit reader or whatever.

    3) arrange your tiles by convenience -- for example I often use EXCEL and NOTEPAD together so having them in the same group much more convenient than having to get EXCEL out of OFFICE and NOTEPAD out of ACCESSORIES. - I don't want too many apps on the taskbar either - I just have EXCEL, OUTLOOK, IE and the snipping tool.

    4) after installing apps say like Visual Studio - remove all the zillions of sub entries - you can create a FOLDER BTW and put this in a metro tile so you can click on that and it will expand the list (see my screenshot -- I've got this for Photoshop). Also if you install say the whole office suite but rarely use PUBLISHER or ACCESS for example don't pin those to the start -- you can still access them via the Search apps menu.

    There are still issues I have -for example I'd like the Text name for my groups to be customisable-- Bold, Colour, Font etc

    I'd like also to be able to change the desktop background colour of each of my groups and for us older guys I'd like to have larger text possible in the Metro tile itself.

    Otherwise I don't think this is anything like as bad as I first thought -- I really thought what a load of the brown stuff but with a bit of work it actually makes a lot of sense.
    #1) That seems like quite a bit of work to get it working for you
    #2) What is the big advantage to you that makes putting in this effort worthwhile? (is it simply a desire to be on the newest thing or something different?)

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    The non Aero Desktop background doesn't really bother me a lot -- when I'm working with things like Photoshop the best background to have anyway is a light grey -- which I know a lot of youngsters will find boring -- but it's 100% correct for getting PROFESSIONAL quality correctly colour renderings for pre-press - especially when you are using CMYK colour modelling and profiles.
    Yeah, I don't do anything for pre-press, I don't even use Photoshop.

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  2. #12


    Quote Originally Posted by jeffrys View Post
    As for not needing the Metro, this is personal Pparks1. Nice for you, but as I stated here before, I need to click OFTEN 4-5 times to get the Excel Docu that I want (do not use Word).

    Now while in Metro, I only have to use 1 click to get where I wanna be.

    So yes, I need Metro.

    Jeff
    Jeff, I totally agree with you. It's personal. That was the entire point of my thread. It's not a horrible OS, it's not a bad performer. It's stable and it's going to be very cost friendly versus old versions of Windows.

    Whether or not it's for you, IS going to come down to some simple UI experiences and preferences. Some people prefer 1 way and some people prefer another. I think many of us just wish we could pick the option that works best for us...that would be the primary complaint.

    For you, you don't like to click 4-5 times to launch a spreadsheet...and that's totally fine. For me, the way I find my spreadsheets is to click Windows explorer, find my file and double click it. I work from many different computers at my office, and even in my home and everything for me is stored on a file server. Navigating out to the share is the way that I do it. So, we just do things differently and that's fine. And based on the way that I prefer doing it, Metro and Windows 8 just doesn't help me.


    Just out of curiosity, with your 1 click opening of your excel file..do you have the actual .xlsx file pinned to the Start menu? I'm trying to understand how you get into the file you want with only 1 click. If it is pinned to the Start Menu, I guess I could get a similar result with a shortcut on my desktop.
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  3. #13


    I know how fast is win8. I'm wondering what kind of impact will OEM bloatware do to freshly installed copies of magnificent, brilliant windows 8 Pro
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  4. #14


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Arpan View Post
    Hi Jimbo, I am glad you made sense out of W8, at last.

    There are loads of people out there who, hopefully, are just like Jimbo. They too will understand the concept pretty soon.

    Lets agree on this: Microsoft knows business and they must have thought something before and during designing this OS for three years. They aren't that dumb, are they?

    People like Cokie, I and many others understood that much earlier, others will hopefully understand that sooner than later.

    Just be patient and use the OS before judging it, Microsoft has thought a thing or two before delivering this to you!!
    It's almost as if people like jimbo have been enlightened...
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  5. #15


    BELGIUM
    Posts : 503
    WINDOWS 8.1 x64


    Pparks1, I do not understand you:
    "For you, you don't like to click 4-5 times to launch a spreadsheet...and that's totally fine. For me, the way I find my spreadsheets is to click Windows explorer, find my file and double click it"

    Why do you double click, you should only click once.......

    "Just out of curiosity, with your 1 click opening of your excel file..do you have the actual .xlsx file pinned to the Start menu? I'm trying to understand how you get into the file you want with only 1 click. If it is pinned to the Start Menu, I guess I could get a similar result with a shortcut on my desktop."

    You can only have around 10 folders in your explorer to click on and that is not enough....

    The same for my Excel Docs, not enough......

    So for an Excel docu I need 2 clicks totally



    Jeff
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  6. #16


    Adelaide
    Posts : 1,338
    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)


    Quote Originally Posted by jeffrys View Post
    Why do you double click, you should only click once.......

    Have you changed the default to "Single click"?

    Quote Originally Posted by jeffrys View Post
    You can only have around 10 folders in your explorer to click on and that is not enough....

    Do you mean "Jump List"?
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  7. #17


    Ohio
    Posts : 473
    Windows 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    I wouldn't lump Windows 8 into the same bin as ME or Vista....it's far better performing and less flawed than either of those 2 OS's were. And for dual monitor use, they have made some really nice improvements in Windows 8.
    .
    I wouldn't either. I would put it in a bin below them as far as ease of use is concerned. Maybe there is something you see in 8 that I don't see. I didn't like Vista but I would choose it over 8. So, as far as using it on desktops or even lap tops, I respectfully disagree with you. But this is only my opinion and I have been known to be wrong.
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  8. #18


    BELGIUM
    Posts : 503
    WINDOWS 8.1 x64


    Yes Lechnerus on both questions

    Jeff
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  9. #19


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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    I wouldn't lump Windows 8 into the same bin as ME or Vista....it's far better performing and less flawed than either of those 2 OS's were. And for dual monitor use, they have made some really nice improvements in Windows 8.
    .
    I wouldn't either. I would put it in a bin below them as far as ease of use is concerned. Maybe there is something you see in 8 that I don't see. I didn't like Vista but I would choose it over 8. So, as far as using it on desktops or even lap tops, I respectfully disagree with you. But this is only my opinion and I have been known to be wrong.
    Frank.....you must be joking

    Jeff
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  10. #20


    I don't think anyone thought it was bad. I personally didn't think it was bad but I didn't like the user-interface both in terms of usability and user-friendliness. I also questioned the aesthetics. I do like the faster performance and hopefully even better performance when it arrives. A lot of the complaints I have is that on a mouse and desktop environment it is not as easy to use. On the touch based environment I'm sure it's much better as I would use my fingers to navigate and swipe but on the mouse it's annoying to hover to get the menu and such. But I never thought windows 8 was bad infact I like that they decided to try something new with metro. It's more of the execution that is where they dind't do so great.
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