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  1. #41


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang View Post
    Call me rigid if you want, but no amount of rationalization or theoretical argument will convince me that Win8 is anything but a hybrid dracula monster! And laptop to replace tower ... surely thou jest!

    Hell with extreme mobo, i7 extreme CPU, SATA3 SSD HD, 12GB RAM & 3 SLI bridged GTX graphics cards, I have to bolt my tower to the desk to stop it going into orbit. Plus umpteen USB external devices, 2 DVD burners, 2nd internal HD and 1 eSATA HD, etc, etc.
    So....one might say that you refuse to listen to rational logic?....

    That's a decent setup if I've ever read of one! I'm personally building in two hard drive bays that will support 8 hard drives as well as I think 4 2.5" hard drive bays as well. I'm planning on using the new AMD APU Trinity quad core processor and might have its graphics core in CrossFire with an AMD card. I'm iffy, I found out that the new APU doesn't support PCI-Express 3, which sucks as more graphics cards are being built on that interface and AMD builds a good bunch of them. I don't know, I'm going to be using my puter for gaming, mainly Grand Theft Automobile 5, and AMD's APU performance just on its graphics chip out does its Intel counterpart in that arena. What's worse is that by this time next year, AMD's going to have a new APU that more than doubles the overall performance than the current generation. I'm torn.

    But enough of that, yes, a laptop can't ever replace your tower, but that's you. For many a common user, a laptop has already replaced their tower. Why, one might ask even though laptops can't be configured for uber high end performance like towers and can have parts that are expensive to replace and have hard drives that can't last a good five years due to user ignorance that laptops can't be dropped or moved with the thing is on? Because it's portable, it's convenient, it doesn't take up as much space, and they just work. Take it out of the box, charge it first, and that's it. That's all you have to do with them. It's simple. You can have it in bed, on the couch, on your desk, on your lap, in the kitchen, in the bathroom (been there, done that), and outside and even more. A tablet PC takes that even further, like almost the next evolution of the laptop.

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  2. #42


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    But enough of that, yes, a laptop can't ever replace your tower, but that's you. For many a common user, a laptop has already replaced their tower.
    Yes, I listen to logical argument, but don't necessarily agree with their line of reasoning. In the end, I use what I find works best for me, even though others sometimes tell me that they can "prove" I'm wrong. Like the shoe salesman who insisted I wear really tight fitting shoes, because his fitting machine told him I was wearing a size too big. Well, I'm still wearing a "size too big" ... and loving it! I'm talking personal preferences.

    I'm not against laptops per se; or tablets, smartfones, etc. It's well established that they all have a role to play in portable work. I was referring to an earlier post that said the desktop would become obsolete and replaced by laptops. No way can I ever see that happening, at least not in my life time.

    My son has a very expensive Sony laptop that cost him about $3,000 ($Aust), that he uses in his business, both on the move and in his home office. I suggested he get a tower as a backup with a 24 inch LED backlighted LCD monitor ... cost $1,000. He did, and now does 95% of his home office stuff on the tower in preference to his lappy, which has reversed roles and become the backup machine. The main difference is the big screen, and it's heaps faster because you don't get all the bloatware that comes with OEM machines ... like Norton AV already.
    Last edited by Mustang; 19 Aug 2012 at 00:09.
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  3. #43


    ^ Mustang: The computer that I was given at my job is a Dell Latitude E6400 which is a laptop. It's been a good little laptop for the past 3.5 years. However, I also built up some machines at my office for test boxes, and I managed to snag one as a desktop computer for myself. Even though spec wise, my laptop and my desktop are close, the performance of the desktop blows away the laptop.

    I often work on my laptop while at home and it's fine. But then I get a chance to fire up my home desktop and I remember why I like the desktop better....it's just flat out faster in every respect. I most likely am always going to have a desktop around, but will probably also have a laptop for my portable use.
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  4. #44


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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    ^ Mustang: The computer that I was given at my job is a Dell Latitude E6400 which is a laptop. It's been a good little laptop for the past 3.5 years. However, I also built up some machines at my office for test boxes, and I managed to snag one as a desktop computer for myself. Even though spec wise, my laptop and my desktop are close, the performance of the desktop blows away the laptop.

    I often work on my laptop while at home and it's fine. But then I get a chance to fire up my home desktop and I remember why I like the desktop better....it's just flat out faster in every respect. I most likely am always going to have a desktop around, but will probably also have a laptop for my portable use.
    My son's Sony VAIO laptop and desktop both have Intel i7 CPUs but likewise for speed the desktop blows the lappy out of the water.

    Also the lappy has issues with Avast AV and Zone Alarm firewall, and twice the system has become corrupted over the past 8 months and had to be reinstalled from an Acronis image which had the bloatware removed, not the factory reset.
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    Mustang: Absolutely agree, I've never seen a laptop with similar specs outperform a desktop. Not entirely sure why laptops are always a bit behind, probably due to slower notebook hard drives. SSD's are helping with that, but I can also have the SSD in the desktop too, and pay less money for the desktop as well.
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    pparks1: Great minds think alike! LOL!

    One other thing I absolutely hate about laptops is the keyboard. I'm not particularly adroit with my fingers, (never could learn to play a guitar except single finger picking), but did pass touch-typing exam though not at top of the class. Even so, I need a bigger keyboard with raised and spaced keys. I know a lot of other people who feel the same way.

    Then there's the small screen. I use 24 inch. Then there's the bloatware ... yadda yadda yadda!
    Last edited by Mustang; 19 Aug 2012 at 00:04.
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  7. #47


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    I'd love to see a desktop that has a removable laptop....so it would be like your desktop gives birth to a laptop? Your desktop to go!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I'd love to see a desktop that has a removable laptop....so it would be like your desktop gives birth to a laptop? Your desktop to go!
    Yep! I'll have that to go with fries! lol!

    Who knows, in a few years time there may be a totally radically different way of doing it all? Years ago Dick Tracey comic books showed him wearing a wrist two-way-radio the size of a wrist watch, and everyone agreed it was only a fantasy. Now we see each other and send videos! Jules Vernes went to the centre of the earth! Maybe it'll be like Tom Cruise in 'Minority Report' movie with the pre-cogs and sweeping hand gestures moving things on a giant see through screen!

    DVDs killed Video Cassettes. SSDs are killing HDDs. Flash drives and external USB HDs have replaced many DVD functions. SKYPE/satellite replaced short wave radios ... and man landed on the moon! And so it goes on. I read an article not so long ago where a hot air balloon was forced down in a remote uncivilized part of the world, and the locals hailed the ballooner as a God. Such things were unknown and beyond the imagination of that tribe, but they're still a reality. Pre WWII nuclear power was not even on the wish list ... at least to my knowledge it wasn't? Who knows what radical replacements are next ... 'Star Trek' space travel at the speed of light, and maybe even cold fusion? It seems the sci fi writers predict the future!
    Last edited by Mustang; 19 Aug 2012 at 00:12.
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  9. #49


    I don't think it's a bad idea to have the touch and desktop. It's just about how it's done. If it was done better I don't mind but how it's done now for me is the problem. Windows 8 in itself has never bothered me all that much. It's more about how they executed their idea in the form of a user interface.
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  10. #50


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    Laptops with similar specs to their desktop counterpart doesn't always outperform the desktop, it might be due to slower hard drives, but I find it's more due to power usage. Laptop chips are designed to use about 17-30 watts of power, but are usually lower than 30. Desktops however, their chips are usually around I think 50+ watts. More wattage, more power, more electron flow, more processing done.



    And tseven, what are talking about?
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