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Windows Desktop to stay for the foreseeable future!

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    Windows Desktop to stay for the foreseeable future!






    Many of us think that by the time Windows 9 or 10 arrives the desktop would disappear. But according to the following MSDN blog, Microsoft considers desktop important and intends to keep desktop for the foreseeable future :




    "We believe in the Windows desktop. It powers the experiences today that make a Windows 7 PC the most popular device in the world. So, even if we believe that over time many scenarios will be well-served by Metro style apps, for the foreseeable future, the desktop is going to continue to play a key role in many people’s lives. So we are going to improve it. We’re having a good dialog about what folks might think about our design choices but also wanted to put these choices in a broader context of the unmatched utility of the desktop."



    Designing for Metro style and the desktop - Building Windows 8 - Site Home - MSDN Blogs



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    Desktop is the important thing. The other stuff is just for playing.

    That post is a year old.

    Before MS panicked.

    Be better if they didn't keep ripping stuff out of the desktop - that is going to cost them dear.
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    I don't know, we'll see what happens. Remember what happened with DOS? Once Windows 95 came out, it eventually lead up to the point in Windows 2000 where it was nothing more than just a simple black box where one can type in text commands. It wasn't the basis of Windows anymore. I think that will happen with the Desktop UI, it will become something that will be there, only for the people that need to use it. There was speculation over two years ago that Microsoft was going to make the Desktop as a service, that one can disable or enable at will....
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    Windows 7 Ultimate, Windows Developer Preview, Linux Mint 9


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Remember what happened with DOS?
    Optimistic and pro-Metro as always Cokie.

    All things phase out eventually but some did improve over time, without taking away the original concept. (Wheels are still round for example because round always worked)

    I think this is not that similar with the situation of the DOS at that time. DOS had much much less user base than the standard Desktop right now so it will take much much longer for the Desktop to phase out, especially that it has established a huge user base, with the Average Joe as the majority, many of which unwilling to change or find the "new Windows UI" strange. Many are in the enterprise level who would not want to make effort to train on a new learning curve. Could take a lot of time. Windows 8 could have a good potential on the tablet and smartphone universe, but not much on the PCs.

    The Desktop is not going away as simple as you think or feel it will, Cokie.
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    True.
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    The desktop is the most important part of win8 Pro.

    It is the USP.

    Win8 Pro allegedly offers offers a phone UI and the Most important bit - the Desktop.

    It couldn't compete against the Ultrabook end just as a glorified phone without calling ability.



    I don't know how MS think win 8 RT is going to take on Ipad.

    It doesn't have a huge app. store, it doesn't have the "must have " branding.
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    Windows 8 is the desktop with a phone UI haphazardly bolted on. It's not a phone UI that includes a desktop "app."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I don't know, we'll see what happens. Remember what happened with DOS? Once Windows 95 came out, it eventually lead up to the point in Windows 2000 where it was nothing more than just a simple black box where one can type in text commands. It wasn't the basis of Windows anymore. I think that will happen with the Desktop UI, it will become something that will be there, only for the people that need to use it. There was speculation over two years ago that Microsoft was going to make the Desktop as a service, that one can disable or enable at will....
    That "simple black box where you can type in text commands" is not DOS by the way. Its a command shell with similar commands but its not DOS. Windows 2000 did not have DOS. DOS was there because it needed to be there. The Windows Command shell is somewhat of a replacement for it.

    I do believe there are a lot more people that want, need, and use the desktop environment, than you think there are. You really don't get it do you? You can't seem to understand that there are people that do things on their PC that you don't do? And there are a lot of use. You can dismiss us if you wish but I think it could be a very big mistake for Microsoft to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phailyoor View Post
    Windows 8 is the desktop with a phone UI haphazardly bolted on. It's not a phone UI that includes a desktop "app."
    I beg to differ. Windows 8 is the beautiful, new M$/Metro interface with the naked -> no-start-button <- legacy desktop taking second place. I think it will remain for a while until all software is written in the new M$ interface. Then as McCartney ended the song "Helen Wheels" -> "Say bye-bye" Paul McCartney and Wings-Helen Wheels - YouTube
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    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    I beg to differ. Windows 8 is the beautiful, new M$/Metro interface with the naked -> no-start-button <- legacy desktop taking second place. I think it will remain for a while until all software is written in the new M$ interface. Then as McCartney ended the song "Helen Wheels" -> "Say bye-bye" Paul McCartney and Wings-Helen Wheels - YouTube
    I'll continue the trend of being in disagreement. Windows 8 is the sacrifice of functionality over eye-candy. Until these "apps" are able to be adjusted in screen size to any size that I want (not just snapped left or right in a 320p) panel, it's absolutely USELESS. The "only" time that I only have 1 thing going on my computer is when I am gaming. Otherwise, I want multiple apps open, a taskbar that I can see and interact with.

    The new interface is just like a tablet in my opinion. It supplements the real computer (legacy desktop) and could easily be skipped altogether. If I could install Windows 8 without Metro I would do it in a heartbeat.
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