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My slightly-above average users first time Windows 8 experience

  1. #11


    Thanks Brink,

    Fortunately my wife has me and I can help her navigate around. Now that she knows what she is doing, she would be fine on the machine.

    Perhaps we can include a copy of your posts with all sales of Windows 8 for the rest of the users.

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  2. #12


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post


    Nice job Brink.

    MS ought actually refer people that are booting up Windows 8 for the first time to this site for further help during the initial set up process.
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    I've yet to actually set Windows 8 in front of someone and let them have at it, but then again, I don't take small children and put them in the driver's seat of a car and tell them to have at it...

    Having said that, at first, it doesn't make sense and seems hugely the opposite of unintuitive, at first. After a bit, it makes sense. But I do find it interesting that your child just went and started to open up Paint without any command. I think Windows 8 will be huge with the younger crowd as it's something new and something totally different and younger people, THEORITICALLY, can learn something like a new UI easier than older crowds.

    Speaking of such, yesterday, I introduced the Windows 8 to a friend of mine and her family. It was by far the most interesting introduction I've done as the family ranged in different ages and abilities. My friend's mom was literally taken aback and borderline overwhelmed, but a good overwhelmed. She was SO shocked at it. Her husband was telling a story of how his friend's tractor engine blew up, I was listening to it too and I though she was gasping at the story, but she was actually gasping at how different Windows 8 is. This is considering they were using xp on that netbook and vista on a couple of laptops. My friend was iffy about it, as she isn't huge on change, let alone radical change. But she said that she might want 8 on her laptop AFTER she plays around with 8 and see if it's ok. When I was at the point of showing off the metro apps, my friend's younger brother was like, "You can have apps on a computer?" And I said YES! You can have it all! Another of their little kids said it looks like you can touch it, which is interesting. Kids are pretty honest about these things! Overall though, they seemed to like it. I showed off Office 2013 as well, as the mom is a HUGE Office user and I showed her around the new Modern Office, and from what I gather, that along with SkyDrive will be excellent. They told me that they had three consecutive years in a row where tax documents got lost on THREE different storage mediums. I bet they will have some usage issues, that's expected, but I bet after a month at the very most, everyone will be using it with different accounts, the kids will be better monitored with Family Safety, and the Windows 8 will be bomb!

    I feel like a technological rock star. There was a recent thread around here about Windows 95 and someone had a story where they had a laptop running 95 on it that got passed around the airplane as everyone wanted to see what it looked like and how it operates. I have a tinkling of a feeling something like that might happen.
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  4. #14


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I've yet to actually set Windows 8 in front of someone and let them have at it, but then again, I don't take small children and put them in the driver's seat of a car and tell them to have at it...
    Neither did I. I took somebody who has been using a computer/driving a car for many, many years. They found Windows 8 unintutive and hard to figure out how to do things. It's actually my kids, with less experience, who find it easier.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Speaking of such, yesterday, I introduced the Windows 8 to a friend of mine and her family. It was by far the most interesting introduction I've done as the family ranged in different ages and abilities. My friend's mom was literally taken aback and borderline overwhelmed, but a good overwhelmed.
    I seriously don't understand who these people are that you keep showing Windows to. Do you just walk around with a laptop going from house to house to house proclaiming the virtues of Windows 8. Everybody you show Windows 8 too, is blown away according to you. Every computer user that I have shown it to, has said, 'Meh, maybe I could get used to it"...but blown away was not a phrase I would have used to describe any of their reactions.
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  5. #15


    Thanks, Brink. That's exactly what I'm speaking of. HELP FILES. What's the antage? -> When all else fails, read the instructions.

    I've yet to actually set Windows 8 in front of someone and let them have at it, but then again, I don't take small children and put them in the driver's seat of a car and tell them to have at it...
    Good point, Coke. One can't obtain a drivers license without some instruction first.

    @pparks1

    But there will be lots of people who either buy a new computer, or decide to purchase Windows and upgrade their existing computers and today there really isn't an in your face guide to get you through these basics..hopefully there is in the RTM release.
    I have a "Help" metro tile. I don't remember if it is original or if I pinned it there. Either way, RP came with help. I referred to it many a time when first learning 8. So it was always there.

    People who have stopped by and asked me about Windows 8 at work have gotten the tour, but I am curious to see how those people get along without the tour.
    Just kidding with you here -> Please don't take this seriously -> After reading some of your posts on the subject, I can't help but to have this vision in my head of your office door with a sign that says "Free Windows 8 tours. Donations appreciated" Is P.T. Barnum a distant relative of yours by any chance? Just curious as to why you like to show people this drastic-of-a-change OS? Do you take pics of their expressions as their jaws drop and tack the pics on a wall? And then to show your wife without even a short intro. What is it with that? Are you getting even with her about something else?

    I don't think average joe's really sit around and read the "help files" As far as the OS goes, there is no "in your face" help button either to guide a novice around in the OS.
    Was there not in past OSs a "What's New" or a "Let's Get Started"? Again, RP came with help. Besides, there is the WWW that is billions of pages big to search for HELP on just about every subject under the sun.
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  6. #16


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Just kidding with you here -> Please don't take this seriously -> After reading some of your posts on the subject, I can't help but to have this vision in my head of your office door with a sign that says "Free Windows 8 tours. Donations appreciated" Is P.T. Barnum a distant relative of yours by any chance?
    No problems. Part of my job responsibilities include research and development into new technologies, etc. I'm one who will have to make the choice as to whether or not Windows 8 should roll out in our environment and also to help anybody who may (or may not) get this version.

    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Just curious as to why you like to show people this drastic-of-a-change OS?
    For the above mentioned reasons. I will have a say as to whether or not there is a need/use for this OS in our environment. I will also be responsible for end user training on the system. Rather than simply "assume" which issues users have, I like to get their input as to what they like and don't like.

    My own personal opinion is, and always has been, that Windows 8 is more or less crap. I have failed to find much in terms of productivity advancements, and I don't feel that any speed improvements at boot time will overcome the loss of time as people flip/flop back and forth between the "new Windows UI" and the desktop. I find Windows 7 to be more or less the best balance between power, performance, efficiency and functionality.

    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Do you take pics of their expressions as their jaws drop and tack the pics on a wall? And then to show your wife without even a short intro. What is it with that? Are you getting even with her about something else?
    No pictures.

    Giving my wife the laptop with an intro showing her all of the differences would have biased her with my obvious concerns with this OS. Instead, I wanted to see what a person, who isn't inclined to have learned anything about Windows 8 would have gotten along.

    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Was there not in past OSs a "What's New" or a "Let's Get Started"? Again, RP came with help. Besides, there is the WWW that is billions of pages big to search for HELP on just about every subject under the sun.
    I'm waiting to see if in the final release there will be an easy to find "what's new" and how to get around. It would be like the way they do the interactive training with video games these days. Rather than read a booklet or scour the web, it leads you more or less through the substantial features, and functions, and commands to be productive with the OS.

    Some of us, love to scour the web and hang out at sites like this and learn everything we can. Most people want to just turn on their computer and use it. For pete's sake, most people don't even read the dialog boxes which come up.
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    For pete's sake, most people don't even read the dialog boxes which come up.
    You work as IT and aid other people. I don't have that experience. You mean to tell me that most people don't read the dialog boxes?! You must be joking?! That's pretty bizarre!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    I'm certainly hoping that when RTM gets installed, there is a quick Interactive How-To, that the OS will walk you through to teach you the very basics about "the new UI", the charms bar, "the new UI apps" and how to get back and forth to and from the desktop. That would resolve many a first users complaints on day 1.

    Well, there is something. But I will not call it a guide. It is a very slow, VERY SLOW, demonstration where you se a mouse cursor moving into one of the corners, and the charms menu popping out. And with the text "Move your mouse to any corner"
    That's it.
    I would say that helps a little, people learn to look in the corners, but still. But it is not enough in my opinion. There should be a demonstration with text that shows "Here you find the start screen" "Type when on start screen to search", just short things like that would help enormous
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  9. #19


    Quote Originally Posted by aerandir92 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    I'm certainly hoping that when RTM gets installed, there is a quick Interactive How-To, that the OS will walk you through to teach you the very basics about "the new UI", the charms bar, "the new UI apps" and how to get back and forth to and from the desktop. That would resolve many a first users complaints on day 1.

    Well, there is something. But I will not call it a guide. It is a very slow, VERY SLOW, demonstration where you se a mouse cursor moving into one of the corners, and the charms menu popping out. And with the text "Move your mouse to any corner"
    That's it.
    I would say that helps a little, people learn to look in the corners, but still. But it is not enough in my opinion. There should be a demonstration with text that shows "Here you find the start screen" "Type when on start screen to search", just short things like that would help enormous
    Thanks, aerandir92. What's in the help files? What are they like?
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  10. #20


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    You mean to tell me that most people don't read the dialog boxes?! You must be joking?! That's pretty bizarre!
    It's hard to find anybody who reads the license agreement, you see people who install freeware stuff and get toolbars and such on their machine because they didn't see the boxes checked during the installer, and software installers will tell people that something is going to happen, and when it does, they come by and ask me about it. It happens quite a bit.
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