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  1. #11


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Final copy of Windows 8 leaks online | The Verge

    "The version leaked is an "N" edition of Windows 8 which does not include a bundled copy of Windows Media Player. Microsoft was forced to create the special N editions of Windows after the European Commission ruled in 2004 that it needed to provide a copy of Windows without Windows Media Player tied in. We reached out to Microsoft to comment and the company says it's not discussing the leak."

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  2. #12


    Posts : 3
    windows7


    hello to all
    to be clear
    i installed windows8-consumerpreview-64bit-english.iso with the intentions of evaluating it with a view of purchasing it when it is available--this would also give me the opportunity to get familiar with the newer op system
    the new install left me with no dvd player although windows media still worked--in device manager the dvd was not installed correctly.after trying all win 8 methods of repair for example cmd prompt and type in as per windows 8 forum advice etc etc i had to give up and remove windows 8
    i did want to keep it and get used to it and although i am aware it wa only foe evaluation i thought is sad that no dvd drive and no workaround was possible--and it seems i am not alone with this problem
    cheers to all
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  3. #13


    Quote Originally Posted by brianleon View Post
    hello to all
    to be clear
    i installed windows8-consumerpreview-64bit-english.iso with the intentions of evaluating it with a view of purchasing it when it is available--this would also give me the opportunity to get familiar with the newer op system
    the new install left me with no dvd player although windows media still worked--in device manager the dvd was not installed correctly.after trying all win 8 methods of repair for example cmd prompt and type in as per windows 8 forum advice etc etc i had to give up and remove windows 8
    i did want to keep it and get used to it and although i am aware it wa only foe evaluation i thought is sad that no dvd drive and no workaround was possible--and it seems i am not alone with this problem
    cheers to all
    So - your DVD drive didn't work under the Win8 CP. I wonder whether it would have been better under the Release Preview, which is the latest pre-RTM public release.

    Did you install it as an upgrade over another version of Windows, or as a clean install? The former is likelier to give trouble (like wacked-out DVD drivers).
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  4. #14


    Adelaide
    Posts : 1,338
    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)

    W8 behaviour is capricious


    As I've mentioned several times before, I experienced something similar with my sound driver.

    It installs and works correctly in:

    • XP
    • W7
    • W8DP


    It installs and doesn't work properly in:

    • W8CP
    • W8RP

    W8 reports that it is installed and working correctly!
    Even Ubuntu 10.04 has no problems with my sound hardware.

    The only reason I can think of for that, is that MS changed something between W8DP and the later versions.

    Other people have similar stories about other components (e.g. NIC).
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  5. #15


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Odd, in all the previews of 8, my DVD drive worked fine. I used VLC player for DVD playback, never tried to see if Media Player did as VLC is my default for those things.
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  6. #16


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Wait, I'm confused. So you installed the N Enterprise version, the one that is destined for use in Europe as to meet EU regulations and you're saying that DVD playback doesn't work natively as Media Player HAD to be taken out of that version to meet EU anti-trust regulations?
    I haven't heard that load of Bow Larks emanating from the EU although plenty of other junk emanates from the EU Commission.

    You can hear loads of their B/S any day of the week in the various "drinking establishments" around the Schuman area of Brussels where the commission is situated

    -- anyway if you want to play DVD's just use VLC player -- Windows media player was always a pile of dog poo anyway as was the Windows Media center too. For TV viewing etc plenty of decent stuff like SKY GO etc.

    Don't forget that W8 also has native virtual ISO mounting so you can convert the DVD's to iso's with a program like AnyDvd and save to HDD and play by mounting the iso's.

    cheers
    jimbo
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  7. #17


    Posts : 51
    Windows 8 RP x64


    I didn't even know what that was until a month ago, and you can still use Windows Media Player or VLC

    I still agree that current Windows 8 sucks mainly because of metro.
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  8. #18


    BELGIUM
    Posts : 503
    WINDOWS 8.1 x64


    Who needs a DVD player anyway?

    Jeff
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  9. #19


    Posts : 288
    Windows 7 Ultimate, Windows Developer Preview, Linux Mint 9


    Quote Originally Posted by jeffrys View Post
    Who needs a DVD player anyway?

    Jeff
    I for one use it from time to time. My DVD drive is in heavy use burning ISO's sometimes. I have still a few DVD's on disks worth watching.

    I know you seem to be supportive of Windows 8 but I don't know why you seem to detest the fact that there are still people using this DVD playback feature that was taken away.

    Sure, it does save MS some money by cutting off some license fees but why would they took it off now when it has always been there native on previous MS operating systems?

    I would be willing to pay just a bit more extra if Windows 8 would come natively with the features it was stripped off.

    I think the removal of those stuff like DVD playback and WMC was rather stupid because instead of building up a reputation, improving those systems to compete with 3rd parties (except on the N editions for EU), they stripped them away to sell as a separate pack when 99% of users would resort to third parties to replace those rather than buy a separate bundle.

    I use Windows Media Center to watch live TV like I did a few minutes ago and Windows Media Player to play DVDs sometimes. This stripping down tactic of M$ is nothing but pure frustration on the Desktop side.
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  10. #20


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Vertex View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jeffrys View Post
    Who needs a DVD player anyway?

    Jeff
    I for one use it from time to time. My DVD drive is in heavy use burning ISO's sometimes. I have still a few DVD's on disks worth watching.

    I know you seem to be supportive of Windows 8 but I don't know why you seem to detest the fact that there are still people using this DVD playback feature that was taken away.

    Sure, it does save MS some money by cutting off some license fees but why would they took it off now when it has always been there native on previous MS operating systems?

    I would be willing to pay just a bit more extra if Windows 8 would come natively with the features it was stripped off.

    I think the removal of those stuff like DVD playback and WMC was rather stupid because instead of building up a reputation, improving those systems to compete with 3rd parties (except on the N editions for EU), they stripped them away to sell as a separate pack when 99% of users would resort to third parties to replace those rather than buy a separate bundle.

    I use Windows Media Center to watch live TV like I did a few minutes ago and Windows Media Player to play DVDs sometimes. This stripping down tactic of M$ is nothing but pure frustration on the Desktop side.
    Native DVD playback was needed back in the day when people did use DVDs a lot more often than now. Netflix beats DVDs almost everyday. An 8 or 16 gig flash drive DEFINTELY beats using disks. Then again, PCs were different back then. Nowadays with ultrabooks and tablets, a DVD drive is wasted space as chances are that most people won't need to be using them often, or at least use an external drive. I for one don't see a lot of value to have media center as it's not improved in the slightest and VLC player does the trick for me.
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