Its Not really that bad!!

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Hello,

Windows 8 will not be a disaster!

we have to think, what do people want when they use a computer?

The either want to use a social networking site, browse the internet, and even watch online videos.

and with windows 8 everything is already there! Facebook, Internet explorer and Youtube apps are already installed.

And this is why it wont be a disaster, because most people want a simple operating system, and why it will be so succsessful
 

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Hello,

Windows 8 will not be a disaster!

we have to think, what do people want when they use a computer?

The either want to use a social networking site, browse the internet, and even watch online videos.

and with windows 8 everything is already there! Facebook, Internet explorer and Youtube apps are already installed.

You are quite right. But if you don't have a touch screen those users you describe would be much better off on Linux Mint.

It does all what you suggested and more in it's new installed state. Is much easier to use for people who are experienced in using a traditional Windows Machine with a keyboard and mouse.

And to top it off it is all for free, put it on as many machines as you like, give it to your friends if you want. No need to ask anyone's permission if you change hardware.
 

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Oh good grief....:doh:
 

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we have to think, what do people want when they use a computer?

The either want to use a social networking site, browse the internet, and even watch online videos.
That's what I do with my smartphone or tablet...not my computer. While I do some of that stuff on occasion, I do a whole heck of a lot more.


You are quite right. But if you don't have a touch screen those users you describe would be much better off on Linux Mint.
Um, no I don't think so. The average user has no desire, ability or peripherals that would encourage the use of Linux on a desktop. People would be better off sticking with their XP, Vista or 7.

And before you jump to conclusions, I'm a linux server admin for a living. I know it very well.
 

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Just saw an interview with the Head of Sony - he said:

look at smartphones - people are saying - why do I need a pc?

There are a lot of people who will be fine with a little phone thing - they have absolutely no use for Windows 8.

If they want a bigger screen - nexus will be fine, and cheap too.
 

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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin
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    PC/Desktop
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You are quite right. But if you don't have a touch screen those users you describe would be much better off on Linux Mint.

It does all what you suggested and more in it's new installed state. Is much easier to use for people who are experienced in using a traditional Windows Machine with a keyboard and mouse.

And to top it off it is all for free, put it on as many machines as you like, give it to your friends if you want. No need to ask anyone's permission if you change hardware.


MS is GOING to have a problem because I believe Windows 8 will be the tipping point for many users that do not care about touch screens and tablets. There are a LOT of these customers out there.

I've used Linux Mint for some time and it is a really good OS, I would say that it is as good or BETTER than Windows 7 in most respects and indeed it is free. Contrary to the difficulties of 5 years or more ago, today Linux Mint is as easy to use as Windows 7.

Part of my reason for migrating to it for most uses is because I am protesting the strong arm push to metro by MS. You see I am a customer and don't appreciate being patronized or forced, after all a business is supposed to accommodate customer needs, not make them adapt to YOUR products.
 

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    win 7 home premium 64 bit
I've used Linux Mint for some time and it is a really good OS, I would say that it is as good or BETTER than Windows 7 in most respects and indeed it is free. Contrary to the difficulties of 5 years or more ago, today Linux Mint is as easy to use as Windows 7.
Well, for many people who bought a preassembled PC, the OS came with it. So, they have essentially already paid for their Windows 7.

While Mint is a nice OS and is easy to use, it's not the same as Windows, it doesn't run the software they are used to, and it's quite possible that they may have many perhipherals like scanners, printers, mp3 players, cameras and such which simply either won't work, or certainly won't have native drivers that are going to work. These people aren't going to watch to deal with that hassle.
 

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The original poster may very well be correct. Maybe Windows 8 is really what people want.

I have been thinking about it and decided that I am totally out of touch. I am turning into a grumpy old man. Metro makes absolutely no sense to me. But then neither does Facebook, Reality TV or the fascination with Celebrities.

So I am going to put my head back in the sand and wait for Windows 9.
 

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    Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1
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    Intel Core i7 3930K
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    Gigabyte X79s
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The original poster may very well be correct. Maybe Windows 8 is really what people want.

I have been thinking about it and decided that I am totally out of touch. I am turning into a grumpy old man. Metro makes absolutely no sense to me. But then neither does Facebook, Reality TV or the fascination with Celebrities.

So I am going to put my head back in the sand and wait for Windows 9.

You may not be out of touch, but the powers that be would like to make you think that it is "you".

If you look at TV today it seems like EVERYTHING on the major networks that is promoted incessantly is a reality show.
Facebook is CONSTANTLY promoted by all the media outlets, interestingly before facebook there was MySpace, which was the EXACT same thing with a different owner, yet you didn't see it being hyped by ALL the major media outlets did you?

Honestly even though there are 250 channels on sat or cable it seems like all the same mindless crap. If you watch TV there are actually very few choices because the content seems to be very similar in nature, essentially you have no REAL choice because they have restricted it. So they can claim that "the consumer" wants to watch it. Actually TV ratings for major media outlets have been decreasing for years now, many people are defecting from TV to streaming video like YT ( as have I) and I can actually watch things I want to. All of the things I like to watch are educational and instructional, and NONE of the content is created by the major media outlets. LOL

I think there IS an agenda by the elite globalists and their corporate machines to FORCE such content for whatever reasons they have. It sure does seem that the end result is a dumbed down general populace.
 

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    win 7 home premium 64 bit
McRuff,

Don't think you are alone. While I don't think Windows 8 is bad, it's certainly not something that I am going to spend money upgrading to. Windows 7 suits me just fine, I plan to stay put.
 

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    Windows 7
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    Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
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    Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
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    8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
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    EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
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    Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
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    23" Acer x233H
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    1920x1080
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    Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
    Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
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    Corsair 620HX modular
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    Antec P182
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    stock
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    ABS M1 Mechanical
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    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
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Linux, POSH!! If people wanted to go to Linux, they had a whole decade to do so as the last decade wasn't a good one for the Windows brand, like vista for example. Even though that was the roughest patch ever for Microsoft, people just stuck to xp, they didn't go to Linux and they didn't when upgrading to Windows 7. There isn't anything about Windows 8 that would constitute a whole up rooting of a whole ton of users' knowledge of how to use an OS and throw it down the drain. The UI shift from Windows to a variant of Linux would be far TOO much than what people claim from a previous version of Windows to 8.
 

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    Windows 8.1 Pro
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    ASUS
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    AMD FX 8320
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    Crosshair V Formula-Z
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I have played with a couple Linux distributions off and on but never found a reason to settle in to regular use of any of them. Maybe it's a lack of "familiar" applications or jts a general lack of familiarity with Linux, but I also imagine most of the third-paty software I run would not run on Linux anyway.

I'll keep plugging away with Linux just to familiarize myself a little more with it, but beyond that I don't think I'll ever do more than run the occasional Linux VM and see what I can do with it. We have a few Linux systems at work but I don't use or manage them, and they're far outnumbered by Windows machines.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 7 x64
Heck of a lot of people using Linux on their phones.

They seem to like it.

That is what is different over the last few years.

OEM's are doing ok selling phones with Linux. Much better than sales than windows phones.

Of course, that is Linux specially tailored for the average user.

Not a big jump to selling larger devices with more capable Linux based o/s.


Now we also have smartphones and great value mini tablets like Nexus - they may all a lot of people need.
 

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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin
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    PC/Desktop
Linux, POSH!! If people wanted to go to Linux, they had a whole decade to do so as the last decade wasn't a good one for the Windows brand, like vista for example.
In the last decade, they had XP, Vista and 7. 2 of the 3 were solid, and Vista was really only rough at launch, by time SP1 came out and 3rd parties had time to get drives and such, it was pretty solid too. I don't really think the past 10 years have been that bad for MS at all.

Even though that was the roughest patch ever for Microsoft, people just stuck to xp, they didn't go to Linux and they didn't when upgrading to Windows 7.
Most computer owners simply use whatever was on their machine when they bought it. Many don't upgrade anyways, and even fewer will go backwards.

There isn't anything about Windows 8 that would constitute a whole up rooting of a whole ton of users' knowledge of how to use an OS and throw it down the drain. The UI shift from Windows to a variant of Linux would be far TOO much than what people claim from a previous version of Windows to 8.
Agreed. When people buy a new computer that comes with Windows 8, they will either love it, or complain and learn to deal with it...but overwhelmingly they will stick with it. Many honestly don't truly even realize they could get rid of it if they wanted to. To them, that is their computer and that is what it has, how it works, etc. They are in for the long haul.

I have played with a couple Linux distributions off and on but never found a reason to settle in to regular use of any of them. Maybe it's a lack of "familiar" applications or jts a general lack of familiarity with Linux, but I also imagine most of the third-paty software I run would not run on Linux anyway.
It can be a challenge, and there are tons of distros, each catering to specific needs. You are right, many of your "familiar" applications might not have a Linux version. If you are a gaming person, you will find gaming support is just not there for the popular common games. And most 3rd party peripherals are simply not designed, nor provided with drivers for Linux as the vendors simply don't have a need to provide them. So, many would struggle getting their stuff to work, and they sure as heck won't find a section of the user guide dedicated to getting it working in their particular distro of choice.

I'll keep plugging away with Linux just to familiarize myself a little more with it, but beyond that I don't think I'll ever do more than run the occasional Linux VM and see what I can do with it. We have a few Linux systems at work but I don't use or manage them, and they're far outnumbered by Windows machines.
It's great to know a different system, and some of the knowledge is transferrable. It's great to know what other systems can and cannot do. Opens your eyes sometimes to what might be possible elsewhere. But unless you work in a server room, you likely may never see much reason to use or know Linux.

At my shop, we are all Windows based on the desktop. But in the server room, we have far more Linux machines than Windows machines.
 

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    Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
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    Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
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    Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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    Corsair 620HX modular
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    Antec P182
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    stock
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    ABS M1 Mechanical
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    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
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    Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.
The original poster may very well be correct. Maybe Windows 8 is really what people want.

I have been thinking about it and decided that I am totally out of touch. I am turning into a grumpy old man. Metro makes absolutely no sense to me. But then neither does Facebook, Reality TV or the fascination with Celebrities.

So I am going to put my head back in the sand and wait for Windows 9.

The sad thing is that he may be correct for a majority of home users, and those of us that do more, SO MUCH MORE, are going to suffer for it. (This is the Tragedy of the Commons)

This playing to the lowest common denominator and ignoring everyone else may seem like a good short term idea but it's going to kill MS in the long run. Windows today is virtually everything to virtually everybody. If it is destined to become just yet another toy OS like Android, iOS, Chrome OS, Firefox OS or any of the others, Windows and Microsoft will quickly become completely irrelevant in a vast sea of sameness.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 7/8
It's great to know a different system, and some of the knowledge is transferrable. It's great to know what other systems can and cannot do. Opens your eyes sometimes to what might be possible elsewhere. But unless you work in a server room, you likely may never see much reason to use or know Linux.

At my shop, we are all Windows based on the desktop. But in the server room, we have far more Linux machines than Windows machines.

I work on servers, and we run Windows on nearly all of them. There are a few specialized systems running Linux, but only a few.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 7 x64
The original poster may very well be correct. Maybe Windows 8 is really what people want.

I have been thinking about it and decided that I am totally out of touch. I am turning into a grumpy old man. Metro makes absolutely no sense to me. But then neither does Facebook, Reality TV or the fascination with Celebrities.

So I am going to put my head back in the sand and wait for Windows 9.

The sad thing is that he may be correct for a majority of home users, and those of us that do more, SO MUCH MORE, are going to suffer for it. (This is the Tragedy of the Commons)

This playing to the lowest common denominator and ignoring everyone else may seem like a good short term idea but it's going to kill MS in the long run. Windows today is virtually everything to virtually everybody. If it is destined to become just yet another toy OS like Android, iOS, Chrome OS, Firefox OS or any of the others, Windows and Microsoft will quickly become completely irrelevant in a vast sea of sameness.

The really sad truth is that the PRO version of Windows 8 includes the same dumbing down that the home version includes. A great compromise for Microsoft would be to metro-ize the home version but include choice in the pro version.
 

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I work on servers, and we run Windows on nearly all of them. There are a few specialized systems running Linux, but only a few.
We have some domain controllers, some file servers, some SQL servers, a sharepoint server, exchange server. But we use Linux to run most of our web products, using tools like MySQL, Apache, Tomcat, Java, etc. We also run various services like our FTP server and some of our DNS servers on Linux as well.
 

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  • OS
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    Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
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    Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
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    8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
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    EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
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    Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
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    23" Acer x233H
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    1920x1080
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    Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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    ABS M1 Mechanical
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    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
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I think there IS an agenda by the elite globalists and their corporate machines to FORCE such content for whatever reasons they have. It sure does seem that the end result is a dumbed down general populace.

Agreed.
The "Powers that be" (Government and Corporations) don't like the fact that ordinary people can do what they like with their computers (not what they are told to do).

They really hate the fact that people can organise protests against them using (shudder) Facebook or Twitter.

IMO, one of the big reasons for all of this "Cloud" hype is, what you do can be monitored and if you don't "tow the line" you can be cut off.
The other reason is gouging the consumer for bigger profits.

Linux, POSH!! If people wanted to go to Linux, they had a whole decade to do so as the last decade wasn't a good one for the Windows brand, like vista for example. Even though that was the roughest patch ever for Microsoft, people just stuck to xp, they didn't go to Linux and they didn't when upgrading to Windows 7.

It might have been tough for MS, but it was a "golden era" for users (e.g. no pointless OS GUI changes).

There was no need to swap to a Linux distro because XP worked and software makers kept churning out programs for it.

The UI shift from Windows to a variant of Linux would be far TOO much than what people claim from a previous version of Windows to 8.

You can still get the desktop/menu paradigm in most Linux distros.
Linux Mint 13 (MATE) is very similar to the "old" Windows GUI (e.g. menus, shortcuts, pinned icons).

You also don't have to battle with 2 Control Panels, 2 GUIs and/or 2 Device Managers.

The problem isn't the GUI, it's that people's "favourite" programs aren't available for it (e.g. Word, Outlook, various games).
If you just surf the Internet and use web mail, there is no real difference for basic users.

Linux distros should pose no problems for basic or advanced users.
It does cause problems for intermediate users though.
 
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    ASRock 880GMH-LE/USB3
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    8GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill Ares F3-1333C9D-8GAO (4GB x 2)
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I will buy the upgrade @ $39, and use it to play around with, so I'm up to speed in the eventuality that MS restore the tradional GUI at SP1. But not as my main OS.

I've got an expensive smartfone, but it's really wasted on me. I simply use it as a phone, with maybe the odd road map use. I have no need or desire to be "twittering away, all day", or know what color briefs some celebrity is wearing, or get an hourly updated body count in some war zone, etc, etc, ... ad nauseum!

Many of the traditional options in previous mobile phones are not included and must be downloaded as apps, some of which you pay for. As a PC it's a joke. Try writing a word document on a screen the size of 2 match boxes, or reading a web page magnified 500% to make it readable. And hence needing 3 or 4 scrolls to read a sentence. While I do like the touch screen for text messages using a stylus, no way never on a desktop PC.
 

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    Inel Extreme & Intel standard
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    12GB & 8GB
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    3 top end SLI linked & onboard
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    In built in graphics card & onboard
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    Corsair Force 128GB SATA3 SSDs in each machine. Plus several external USB3 and eSATA spinner HDs
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