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  1. #51


    Australia
    Posts : 716
    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM

    Microsoft Attitude


    To me the key issue issue is Microsoft's attitude. They refuse point blank to give their army of loyal desktop users the options to totally switch off/on "Metro" (or whatever it's now called), and have a direct boot to desktop with legacy start menu.

    To get the improved performance aspects of Win8, which should be in a SP2 to Win7, and have direct boot to desktop/legacy start menu, you must use a workaround like Classic Shell.

    Sorry, I won't do business with a company with an attitude where they so easily could please all camps, but won't.

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  2. #52


    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    If I may quote from Mike Mace:

    you'd think that Microsoft would do everything in its power to make current Windows users feel comfortable and excited about moving to Windows 8.

    Instead, they're being confronted with deliberate incompatibilities, indifference toward their needs, and a preview campaign for Windows 8 that has already disenchanted some of the most enthusiastic Windows users.
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  3. #53


    Australia
    Posts : 716
    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    If I may quote from Mike Mace:

    you'd think that Microsoft would do everything in its power to make current Windows users feel comfortable and excited about moving to Windows 8.

    Instead, they're being confronted with deliberate incompatibilities, indifference toward their needs, and a preview campaign for Windows 8 that has already disenchanted some of the most enthusiastic Windows users.
    Wholeheartedly
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  4. #54


    BELGIUM
    Posts : 503
    WINDOWS 8.1 x64


    Well Mustang, some months ago I mentioned on the board that Win8 should give the option at install to personalize Windows to what the user needs.

    FOR EVERYTHING, like Metro, but also in Office, this should be made possible.

    As for the Metro, does it really hurt to click on the desktop to get where you wanna be?

    The only thing disturbing with Metro is the background. This could be better, if only that could be personalized. myself I do not really need the taskbar.

    Jeff
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  5. #55


    Australia
    Posts : 716
    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    Quote Originally Posted by jeffrys View Post
    As for the Metro, does it really hurt to click on the desktop to get where you wanna be?
    Thanks for the input Jeff, and I hear what you're saying. It's not that it's so hard to click on Desktop icon, or use Classic Shell.

    It's Microsoft's attitude I can't handle, in that they could easily offer those options, but point blank won't.

    Like I said in another post, even if the OS is improved, I just don't want to do business with a company that treats it's loyal supporters that way by treading roughshod over their preferences.
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  6. #56


    It's not so much Microsoft's attitude, it's the attitude of saying that we don't like it because we can't change our habit, that we want to stick with the old way and reject change. If you want change to be adopted, then new should be better than old in the first place.
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  7. #57


    Posts : 219
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Fredledingue View Post
    It's not so much Microsoft's attitude, it's the attitude of saying that we don't like it because we can't change our habit, that we want to stick with the old way and reject change. If you want change to be adopted, then new should be better than old in the first place.
    I agree with both sentiments, that people are by and large creatures of habit, and that in order for change to be adopted, the new must be better than the old, else people will be resistant to it. Both are true, and both are reason enough as to why Windows 8 will be a classic failure that business analysts will be talking about for years to come...
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  8. #58


    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    MS have made some decisions with win8 that will make it harder.

    All this forcing and removing of choice is completely unnecessary and has turned a lot of their existing users against them.

    They are doing the right thing making it cheap - that is the only way to sell stuff people don't really want.

    Once they have bought it, they will use it, they will put up with it - because it was cheap.

    Eventually, they will become so used to it, they will forget they didn't like it. They have been "trained".

    I think that approach might work for MS judging from some of the responses on this forum.
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  9. #59


    BELGIUM
    Posts : 503
    WINDOWS 8.1 x64


    Mustang I used Classic Shell, but removed it again. Do not need this.

    Jeff
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  10. #60


    SIW2, "Cheap". For MS maybe, it was cheap job. For us it'll cost $300.
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