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How much dumbed down Windows 8 is in comparision to Windows 7?

  1. #1


    Posts : 38
    Windows 7

    How much dumbed down Windows 8 is in comparision to Windows 7?



    This is my question to all seniormembers, power users, advanced users, developers and everybody else in the forum. I saw the following thread at your forums posted by theuser “xpclient”:


    http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w8itprogeneral/thread/18b53644-6c6b-4d32-820a-53134a0913f3/




    Though I am not a power user oradvanced user, I intend to be one in near future. So I would wish forfull control over my PC. And without doubt all power users oradvanced users wish the same. But this thread mentions the featuresand configuration options removed in Windows 8 which were present inWindows 7, and it seems a lot has been removed and the user's controlhas been diminished.


    Iwould like to know your opinions whether the features andconfigurations removed in Windows 8 are too much or little in termsof the users control on his/her PC. If they are too much, is thatpossible that through third partly applications, or with some tricksand tweaks the advanced user/power user could somehow be able to havethe same control over his/her PC and do whatever he/she can as inWindows 7? Do any alternative methods exist with which he/she couldaccomplish what he/she can in Windows 7? If Windows 8 restrictsuser's control over the system then I think its better to stick withWindows 7. If users can somehow manage to do as much as they can inWindows 7, they should welcome Windows 8 and move ahead with it.Kindly throw some light on this matter.







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    Posts : 142
    Windows 8 Enterprise 64-bit (7 Ult, Vista & XP in V-Box)


    I don't approve of anything that takes either control or options away from me.

    After all, who owns the computer?

    Me?

    Or Microsoft?

    Although I do like using Win 8, there are several reasons why I
    am somewhat less than enamoured with it.

    This is one.

    The push to the cloud is another.
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  3. #3


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    Hello,

    I've read the list. Some removed features will be missed, others not. Some new features will be liked, others not. We get over this at every major release in a few years.

    Personally I don't feel a major difference in what you call full control. I can do all the advanced stuff I did in Win7. The XPClient guy mentioned Device Manager: but The version in Win8 is better than previous ones (if you know what I mean).

    Whan I first discovered Win8 I was first impressed about the new features rather than being depressed about the removed features.
    If WMP doesn't provide me DVD playback anymore, I'm using VLC now: they even made pure win64 versions.

    There had been some heavy discussions and fights around here between metro lovers & haters... long story made short: it's possible that you like some features and hate others but complaining about them now won't help anyone. If I would upgrade, it will be because I like some of the new features. That's about it.

    Can you or anyone explain that restrict user control over the system?
    Trying an Auto-answer to myself: It's seems to be one of those myths again: I don't feel a difference between my Win7 Admin and Win8 Admin rights. But it is possible that they increase security in each OS version and that's a good thing.

    Iwould like to know your opinions whether the features andconfigurations removed in Windows 8 are too much or little in termsof the users control on his/her PC
    No not for me.
    I do find it difficult to change the screen font as the advanced theme (classic) settings are removed but for the rest all goes well.

    What else: ah yes the dualboot slowdown; well I'm trying not to dualboot (use VM's instead) because I saw how that goes. But if you have only a Win8 bootloader there, you can boot faster than in Win7 even on old IDE hdd's thanks to the new hybrid boot option:
    Fast Startup - Force Use by All Users in Windows 8 that you can always turn ON on the drive.
    Works even better on SSD's.

    Every OS release has its ups and downs. I try to look at the ups to cheer me up.
    Although I use Win7 on my main PC, I don't feel bad about Win8: it's a good release.

    Cheers
    Hopachi
    Last edited by Hopachi; 30 Jul 2012 at 17:38. Reason: adding missing letters and stuff
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  4. #4


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    I don't approve of anything that takes either control or options away from me.

    After all, who owns the computer?

    Me?

    Or Microsoft?

    Although I do like using Win 8, there are several reasons why I
    am somewhat less than enamoured with it.

    This is one.

    The push to the cloud is another.
    I try to ignore the thing they call the cloud as I'm a more offline person myself.
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  5. #5


    Posts : 38
    Windows 7


    Hopachi,


    As you say that “some removed features will be missed, others not. Some new features will be liked, others not. We get over this at every major release in a few years”. So that means its sort of balance in the number of features with every major release. So we would have almost the same control as we have with Windows 7. With technological advance some features are removed and some added. If thats the situation then I would go with Windows 8! Also personally I like the Metro interface but I won't wish to leave the desktop interface. We are getting both with Windows 8! With reference to the cloud feature, like you I too am an offline person. And like you I look forward to Windows 8! Cheers!
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  6. #6


    Posts : 248
    Windows 8 RTM (Retinas taking damage...)


    Windows 8 is mostly the normal windows 7 desktop with a glorified smartphoen metro overlay bolted on.
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    I don't feel that I am any more restricted in Windows 8 than I was in Windows 7 or in Vista.
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  8. #8


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    I say this:

    Windows 8 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia List of new features

    List of features removed in Windows 8 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia List of removed/upgrade features.

    Technically, you can say Windows 8 is dumbed down if you mean on the maintenance end, whereas there is VERY little user input needed to maintain a good, clean running copy of Windows 8. Also, reset and refresh features can be called dumbed down. Honestly, I think it's a personal relief.

    Then again, if you find some of the really old forum threads, you'll find that some people find that Windows 8 is too difficult to use as there is too steep of a learning curve, then no, it's not dumbed down.

    There isn't anything too dumbed down about 8 honestly. Then again, it's definition you might want to clarify.
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  9. #9


    Posts : 38
    Windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I say this:

    Windows 8 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia List of new features

    List of features removed in Windows 8 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia List of removed/upgrade features.

    Technically, you can say Windows 8 is dumbed down if you mean on the maintenance end, whereas there is VERY little user input needed to maintain a good, clean running copy of Windows 8. Also, reset and refresh features can be called dumbed down. Honestly, I think it's a personal relief.

    Then again, if you find some of the really old forum threads, you'll find that some people find that Windows 8 is too difficult to use as there is too steep of a learning curve, then no, it's not dumbed down.

    There isn't anything too dumbed down about 8 honestly. Then again, it's definition you might want to clarify.




    I have checked the link you provided of the list of features removed in Windows 8. I don't think that too much has been removed really. And if a few features some people like are removed, I think there must be workarounds for them. Advanced users are well capable to find workarounds. And some features could be enabled through third party applications. But on the whole the features are the same. People are just creating hype as they did when Vista was released. I have used Vista and it was quite a good operating system. Looking forward to Windows 8! Cheers!!!
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  10. #10


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by icet View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I say this:

    Windows 8 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia List of new features

    List of features removed in Windows 8 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia List of removed/upgrade features.

    Technically, you can say Windows 8 is dumbed down if you mean on the maintenance end, whereas there is VERY little user input needed to maintain a good, clean running copy of Windows 8. Also, reset and refresh features can be called dumbed down. Honestly, I think it's a personal relief.

    Then again, if you find some of the really old forum threads, you'll find that some people find that Windows 8 is too difficult to use as there is too steep of a learning curve, then no, it's not dumbed down.

    There isn't anything too dumbed down about 8 honestly. Then again, it's definition you might want to clarify.




    I have checked the link you provided of the list of features removed in Windows 8. I don't think that too much has been removed really. And if a few features some people like are removed, I think there must be workarounds for them. Advanced users are well capable to find workarounds. And some features could be enabled through third party applications. But on the whole the features are the same. People are just creating hype as they did when Vista was released. I have used Vista and it was quite a good operating system. Looking forward to Windows 8! Cheers!!!
    Agreed. I think people are just hyping up that Windows 8 is bad because it isn't like Windows 7, simply put.
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