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    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    Where are you going with this? What's wrong with simplicity? There's a saying -> Keep it simple, Stupid. If it's easier to fix, it'll get fixed faster for the user to return quicker to use. M$ is not an evil empire that has an evil plan.
    There are things that when made too simple get dumbed down in the process. If the wheel was to become more simple, would it still work as good as modern ones? Believe it or not, business is (in many cases) evil for the purpose of self-gain and interest based on their plans, M$ is not an exception. Imagine telemarketeers. They don't tell you everything you need to know about the product, they tell mostly the good ones, not telling you of hidden charges, all they care about that that they sell the product and get your money. I'm not saying that all business is like that but sadly, that's reality. MS wants us into the clouds that's why they have not provided an option to bring back the Start Menu or the ability to boot directly to the Desktop so that its these Metro apps you'll always see first.

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  2. #12


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    Makes you wonder what he could produce for $50

    I've got one and am waiting delivery of the second... It isn't a "handheld computer" - it's a very small (call it) PC Mobo with Arm V6 SOC, 256Mb ram, interfaces to HDMI, USB, Ethernet, direct logic control interfaces, and you load the Linux OS via SD card....fascinating object.... and people have got Windows XP running on it under an Emulator. Won't run Win8.
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  3. #13


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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Can't find it now .

    He has done so may interviews.

    This particular one discusses how the tecnology around us is controlling more and more of our lives - yet we know less and less about it.

    Raspberry pi is a small attempt at trying to address that.
    Exactly.

    It is in my view DANGEROUS for the general public to not have at least a modest understanding of how technology actually works, the mechanicals of the software if you wish.

    I honestly fear for humanity if only a small circle of people truly understand the continually advancing technology that certainly DOES more and more control our lives.
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  4. #14


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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    This particular one discusses how the tecnology around us is controlling more and more of our lives - yet we know less and less about it.
    Stupidly true, OH MY GOSH. It's amazing, people know HOW to use technology, but when it comes to troubleshooting, it's like putting a monkey behind the wheel of a space ship.
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  5. #15


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lonewolf View Post
    Raspberry pi I assume is cheap for a handheld computer. Have you tried to install Win8 DP onto it? Or is it like a Kindle, not possible. BUT I would think you would be able to remove the Linux O/S off of it. But for $25.00 it might just run off of a ROM, instead of a HDD.
    Doesn't it run off a baby version of Linux?
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  6. #16


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    You know, I've once pondered this myself. Back then, YOU HAD to know your stuff to fix the computing technology. If you didn't, you called an IT person and said some prayers and did some other voodoo to make sure your broken puter can get fixed. Nowadays, a broken puter gets fixed within hours usually. But software wise, yeah, the simplification of it does seem to make one think that by the time sometime, the need for IT people like us will be next to nothing. But, what kind of reassures me is Star Trek of all things! In Star Trek: The Next Generation, the engineer guy is ALWAYS on top of the technological issues with the Enterprise, whether it be the engines or even the massive computer. Even though we think technology will come to the point where it's so simplified that a drunk can fix it, there will the times and instances where that drunk can't fix it. Take for example, the Reset and Refresh feature. I find that some people won't know what to do with as they've never done it before. Probably in a few years, it won't be something many people fear doing as it's simple and easy. Disregarding software for a moment, I can tell you that right now with laptops being the new desktops, hard drives can and will CRASH. I've already come across a few just this past two weeks and had to do data recovery on a couple and another one that was in an external enclosure is a genuine lost cause unless over 700 dollars is involved. Do you think the common person with an ounce of knowledge of how to use a smartphone OS and think they're all cool and whatnot because they can get a simple OS working faster can recovery data and transfer data over and do a complete system reinstall? As of probably this whole decade, I give it a resounding NO.

    But, it is a good thing that technology is becoming more user friendly, as that's just the natural evolution of technology in general. When the automobile was invented, you had to hand crank it up to get it going. Now, on many new cars, it's a simple push of a button. Back in the day with Windows 95 and previous ones, you had to know DOS to get Windows to work correctly or to get a piece of hardware working. It could had taken days to get a new piece of hardware to work back then. Today, you throw that piece of hardware in the correct fitting port and turn on the machine and Windows will install a driver for it. It's all about adapting to the changing tide. Many PC manufacturers might tank if they don't adopt the tablet PC. Some places like best buy might see less and less virus issues to deal with as time goes on because of built in anti-virus in Windows 8.

    Simply put, cheer up! Go to your local best buy and talk to the sales people about Windows 8. See how much more you know about it than them.
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  7. #17


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lonewolf View Post
    Raspberry pi I assume is cheap for a handheld computer. Have you tried to install Win8 DP onto it? Or is it like a Kindle, not possible. BUT I would think you would be able to remove the Linux O/S off of it. But for $25.00 it might just run off of a ROM, instead of a HDD.
    Doesn't it run off a baby version of Linux?
    Sure does - multiple choices - plus a few non-linux others, but not Win8!
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  8. #18


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    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    OK, Mike. I see your concern. I see you take pride in what you do professionally. That's a good thing. I had the similar concern when I was young in my profession.

    Yes. I agree. Outsourcing has been a concern in this country for quite some time. It applies to most industries. Business forecasters told us 40 some odd years ago that America would become a "service orientated economy". Sorry to say in some ways it has become true. Now you're saying it's getting worse with simplicity of a product.

    In my profession as a builder, starting out as a carpenter, and being fortunate to be taught by the best of them. These were hard-core old-timers that called me a nasty name more than a few times. I kept coming back. I learned the trade knowing very well how to cut rafters for a roof. Figure out, make parts, and install stairs -> All of the building. Then in the early 70's I saw buildings starting to be built, or fabricated as we call it, in factories. Then I saw components such as floor decks, roof trusses, stairs, cabinets, etc. being sold. We joked "Put hammer, square, and a level in a guy's hands and they call themselves a carpenter". To sum up, they simplified building. Today customized panelization is the craze. I got into remodeling back in the early 80's, which for the most part is a service and quite the art form that most so called "Carpenters" can't perform. I am finding work. Not making a killing in today's economy, but keeping my head above the water line.

    I'm not a Pro in computerization. My only advice is to find something in your field that few know about. I myself would learn how to write apps. I think that will be the craze and money maker.
    Tony, I see we hold similarities, when I was a young man, I was a carpenter, and a member of the union, thanks to getting sponsored by a seasoned carpenter. I did mostly trade show setup, you know the wood bases, etc. Then my back got hurt, and that was that, found a new passion with computers.
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  9. #19


    Ok. I see. I wasn't quite sure how old you were. Well, now we have two things in common.
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  10. #20


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post

    But, it is a good thing that technology is becoming more user friendly, as that's just the natural evolution of technology in general. When the automobile was invented, you had to hand crank it up to get it going. Now, on many new cars, it's a simple push of abutton.

    Although this is a extreme example I can tell you that the hand cranked car COULD be fairly easily fixed by someone with very little knowledge because it is very simple and straight forward, sure it took some muscle to turn that crank but it WORKED, it was reliable for the most part and when it broke it was CHEAP and easy to fix with mostly some mechanical aptitude and common hand tools.

    That super easy to start car with the push button although it appears simple is exceedingly complicated, and when that electronic system fails, which on automotive systems they do over time because of the harsh environment there is NO way in hell a shade tree is going to repair it UNLESS it is the mechanical push button that is the failure, and I can tell you that button itself almost NEVER will fail.
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