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Windows 8 editions and backup to network

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    Windows 8 editions and backup to network


    Right now I'm on Windows 7 Home Premium, and Windows Backup does not allow me to save backups to a network volume. I would need a $90 upgrade to Windows 7 Professional for that.

    So, I'm just wondering if anyone can tell me if Windows 8 will include network backups, or if I would have to buy Windows 8 Professional or some other edition.

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    I'm pretty sure that I read that the backup app would backup to a network drive on the standard version of Windows 8. On a plus note, the $39.99 upgrade will put people on Windows 8 Professional, which would certainly include that feature.
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    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Quote Originally Posted by iynque View Post
    Right now I'm on Windows 7 Home Premium, and Windows Backup does not allow me to save backups to a network volume. I would need a $90 upgrade to Windows 7 Professional for that.

    So, I'm just wondering if anyone can tell me if Windows 8 will include network backups, or if I would have to buy Windows 8 Professional or some other edition.
    Hi there
    Windows 8 currently allows you to backup to any volume -- however we only have the equivalent of "Ultimate" in the RP version so I can't say what will be in a "Home Premium" version.

    I still think in any case whatever edition you are running it's worth spending 45 - 50 USD on a decent 3rd party robust backup solution -- if you do any serious work with computers the time you save by having decent backups makes the small investment here a no brainer. Acronis, Paragon and Macrium are all good choices here.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    I did invest in OS X for $20, which includes hourly incremental backups of my entire system, from which I can restore absolutely everything, or easily find specific files and folders, all wirelessly over my network for no additional cost, and it's all automatic without having to run third-party software...

    I'm running Windows on a partition on my Mac, by the way.

    I'm not keen on spending an additional $45 dollars to replace the built-in backup system with something that actually works; if they included it, it should work. :/

    I kinda figured the Windows 8 preview would be an "Ultimate" sort of deal. I guess I'll have to wait for the release and an editions comparison page on the website like they have for Windows 7 editions now.
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    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Quote Originally Posted by iynque View Post
    I did invest in OS X for $20, which includes hourly incremental backups of my entire system, from which I can restore absolutely everything, or easily find specific files and folders, all wirelessly over my network for no additional cost, and it's all automatic without having to run third-party software...

    I'm running Windows on a partition on my Mac, by the way.

    I'm not keen on spending an additional $45 dollars to replace the built-in backup system with something that actually works; if they included it, it should work. :/

    I kinda figured the Windows 8 preview would be an "Ultimate" sort of deal. I guess I'll have to wait for the release and an editions comparison page on the website like they have for Windows 7 editions now.
    Hi there
    what happens if your Mac isn't bootable -- does this backup include "Bare Metal Restore". If not then it's useless.

    If you have to restore via an online system - unless your BIOS has a method of connecting to the Internet (some Asus Mobos have this I believe) then you are totally up that well known street without a paddle either.

    (Macs don't normally fail on boot - I know but it IS possible - so I'd be interested on how you'd dig yourself out of this hole if it happened).

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by iynque View Post
    I did invest in OS X for $20...
    What happens if your Mac isn't bootable...
    I really did not intend to start a Mac Vs. PC thread. Sorry for the obviously inflammatory remarks on my part.

    To address your questions, you can't boot directly from a Time Machine backup. You boot from a recovery disk. This can be your install DVD, or a partition made by every install of OS X Lion on the boot volume, or a copy of that partition on any USB disk (1 GB or larger) made by Apple's free Recovery Disk Assistant app.

    Once you boot from a recovery disk, you can get online to search for help with a full Safari browser, restore your system (including all files, apps, settings, etc) from any point in time with Time Machine, reinstall OS X by downloading it fully-updated from the internet or using an offline copy and updating later, and, finally, use Disk Utility to check, repair, erase, or partition any disk. ...all with a nice, full OS X GUI, not a command line or low-res "safe" interface.

    I had my hard drive fail about a year ago. It took about four hours to go buy a new HDD, install it, and restore my entire system from a Time Machine backup. It was like nothing happened (except I have a faster disk that's twice the previous size!).

    Oh, and Macs use EFI, not a BIOS. I'm not sure what you would do if the EFI system failed, but I'm not sure what you would do if the BIOS or EFI failed on a PC either. I'm assuming that's not what you mean by "fail on boot" though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iynque View Post
    Right now I'm on Windows 7 Home Premium, and Windows Backup does not allow me to save backups to a network volume. I would need a $90 upgrade to Windows 7 Professional for that.

    So, I'm just wondering if anyone can tell me if Windows 8 will include network backups, or if I would have to buy Windows 8 Professional or some other edition.

    So it works only in Win7 Pro and above, didn't knew that, but somewhere it's mentioned in the OS features.
    This is a detail in Windows Backup. So far I didn't see it mentioned for Win8.

    Here: Announcing the Windows 8 Editions
    is a difference in features Between Win8 and Win8 Pro and the ARM version, but no difference that concerns windows backup.

    Since in Windows Vista Home Premium there was no Windows Backup (a feature that I need), I was happy that Win7 Home Premium even had this feature (which it has). There was a feature change between Vista and 7 and it is expected again between 7 and 8: I don't see any backup difference between 8 and 8 Pro and maybe you don't need to upgrade to Pro. But we'll see after the release or after we find some detailed feature list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post
    Here: Announcing the Windows 8 Editions
    is a difference in features Between Win8 and Win8 Pro and the ARM version, but no difference that concerns windows backup.
    Even though it doesn't mention backup features, that's a very helpful link. Thanks!
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    Orbiting the Moon
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    You're welcome!

    We'll definitely find some extra info about all this after the final release in less than a month.
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    Windows 8 also includes Windows file history which does hourly back up's of any files that may have been changed or modified.

    The Windows 8 file recovery works perfectly fine for me, I've also tested the images and they work flawlessly. I always create a system image after all my programs are installed and Windows updates are installed, then I use a second partition for weekly back up's.

    I won't bother getting into "what if" scenario's as the built in Windows file recovery and file history work perfectly as is. No need for an expensive third party back up program to muck things up.
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