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My logic behind Microsoft's controversial decision: Removal of Start

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    Because no pain no gain. It's faster! It is! I promise ;(

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    Quote Originally Posted by legacy7955 View Post
    The question is if MS is so confident in the new configuration why not allow a default selection that allows the user to have a CHOICE of the traditional start menu?
    I personally don't think they are that confident. To keep the cash flowing they must follow the fruit company's lead and sell downloaded apps plus their monthly cloud subscription service. Hence there will not be a UI choice at install time. But hey, according to MS no one (or very few) ever bothered using the start menu so what would we know. MS must be right surely!!

    It'll only take one or two periods of downtime with the cloud service then everything will hit the fan if folks have decided to go that route.

    For myself, I will never in a million and one years store client information on a third party cloud service even if they had given (which I would doubt) permission to do so.

    We live in interesting times and it will be especially so over the coming few months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixel Eater View Post
    Because no pain no gain. It's faster! It is! I promise ;(
    You can be sure about the pain but not sure about the gain. Rather than MS going on about it being new (that's true) and modern looking (open to opinion), I would welcome them (MS) to explain in simple English exactly what the benefits will be for desktop/laptop users.
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    Everyone is saying this and that about Apple, WHAT no one has mention, is that Metro is similar to the Apple O/S 6 thru 9. And being a former iMac user the metro interface wasn't a biggie for myself to pick up and learn. To be absolutely honest, Mac O/S was better set up as the desktop interface. The only difference is, Mac O/S used the upper top left corner, and Microsoft is using the lower left corner. Go ahead and see for yourself. move your mouse as far lower left as you can, then click the right mouse button. It's magical!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mart4494 View Post
    You can be sure about the pain but not sure about the gain. Rather than MS going on about it being new (that's true) and modern looking (open to opinion), I would welcome them (MS) to explain in simple English exactly what the benefits will be for desktop/laptop users.
    I'm just speaking from experience personally. I have literally no idea what Microsoft is saying. I've been having considerable increases in how fast I'm using Metro. I think we're looking at the best implementation of meta/Win key shortcuts ever so to that end I have enthusiastically decided it's time to trade in my '93 clicky keyboard for a Topre. That wasn't until a week ago however, even without those shortcuts things are really working out for me. Metro felt engaging in a way that made me want to learn any leftover tricks I'd never explored with Start Menu and how to really expedite things. Returning to the Start Menu now would feel like an honest step backwards.

    By the way I didn't know about that right click menu!
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    Keyboard Shortcuts


    Windows has had keyboard shortcuts for years.

    Windows 7 has a huge number of shortcuts:
    Shortcut Keys for Windows 7 - Windows 7 Forums

    It is interesting how many people are saying, "use the keyboard shortcuts" instead of the W8/Metro GUI.

    Maybe the W8/Metro GUI is awful and that's why keyboard shortcuts are in vogue again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Windows has had keyboard shortcuts for years.

    Windows 7 has a huge number of shortcuts:
    Shortcut Keys for Windows 7 - Windows 7 Forums

    It is interesting how many people are saying, "use the keyboard shortcuts" instead of the W8/Metro GUI.

    Maybe the W8/Metro GUI is awful and that's why keyboard shortcuts are in vogue again.
    I've found the majority of Microsoft Windows key shortcuts useless and use a registry hack to disable them. I do like shortcuts, however, and I use Autohotkey to create ones that makes sense to me. For example, for years I've bound certain frequently used folders to Win+1, Win+2, etc, and then Windows 7 came along and bound them to taskbar icon positions, which I think is useless. The only Microsoft shortcuts I keep are Win+E and Win+L. For Microsoft to add even more shortcuts further signifies their fail and irritates me to the extent they're necessary to make up for their UI mistakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Windows has had keyboard shortcuts for years.

    Windows 7 has a huge number of shortcuts:
    Shortcut Keys for Windows 7 - Windows 7 Forums

    It is interesting how many people are saying, "use the keyboard shortcuts" instead of the W8/Metro GUI.

    Maybe the W8/Metro GUI is awful and that's why keyboard shortcuts are in vogue again.
    Like I said though, I didn't have a windows key until a week ago. Yes I've had them in the past, yes I'm well enough aware of what was possible in 7. This is the first time I'm really enjoying them though. Things were still impressively faster and more intuitive, even without one. In my book anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crawfish View Post
    I've found the majority of Microsoft Windows key shortcuts useless and use a registry hack to disable them.
    You don't use window snapping?

    That is my most used Windows key shortcut.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pixel Eater View Post
    Like I said though, I didn't have a windows key until a week ago.
    My bad.
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  10. #50


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    Windows 8.1 update 1 Pro X64 with WMC


    I don't miss the start button one bit much faster pressing windows key and typing and going threw start button can't wait to get the final version
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