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Windows 8 Interface Sanity Tweaks--please share yours!

  1. #11


    Posts : 106
    Windows 8 Pro


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cly View Post
    Hey cly, first congratulations you could get windows 8 running in vhd.
    I have already answered your problem in that other thread. I am giving you the link:
    www.eightforums.com/general-discussion/7663-my-top-2-reasons-upgrade-windows-8-share-yours-5.html

    And answering your question, there is no other search utility for desktop mode.
    You can easily search everything pressing the windows key+q. You will find everything including desktop mode files from there. Other option is just press the windows key. You will be taken to the metro start screen. From there just start typing. You will automatically get the search results.

    Hope it helps.
    Installing in VHD was pretty smooth, and you were right it is the way to go. I have to say I am liking Win 8. I am not impressed with the startup time, compared to Win 7 on SSD. (The VHD is on a mechanical drive.) Maybe the funky hibernation shutdown is disabled when booting from VHD?

    I am really surprised that MS endorses hibernation on shut-down. Doesn't that screw up the computer over time, as memory isn't freed up etc.? Maybe they use some kind of partial hibernation of just parts of the memory? I have this engrained idea, from the days of Windows XP, that you have to really shut down a computer when you shut it down or else it will act up on you. Plus it's more secure.

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  2. #12


    Quote Originally Posted by Cly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dave76 View Post
    Put your mouse in the top left corner, click the desktop thumbnail.
    You will also get a thumbnail list of all metro apps open, and the desktop if opened.
    Right click any thumbnail and you can close the app.
    That is helpful.

    Shut-down is really awkward. Does any one disagree? I have the computer's power button disabled. It is too easy to hit by accident by me or people around me. Alt-F4 right click on the taskbar--oddly that's the one I use.
    Shutdown is awkward in 8. I designated Ctrl/Alt/s to command shutdown (with 10 second delay) via a desktop shortcut no matter where I'm at. I also have restart, sleep, and hybernate shortcuts. You may find these helpful:

    Shut Down Shortcut - Create in Windows 8

    I hate the mouse so I use a lot of these:

    https://www.eightforums.com/general-d...shortcuts.html
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  3. #13


    Posts : 9
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64


    Move your mouse ALL THE WAY to the bottom left, right-click.

    You get a list of helpful tools: control panels, command prompt with admin rights, disk management, etc.
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  4. #14


    Quote Originally Posted by InstantSesame
    Move your mouse ALL THE WAY to the bottom left, right-click.

    You get a list of helpful tools: control panels, command prompt with admin rights, disk management, etc.
    There doesn't seem to be a touch based equivalent...
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  5. #15


    Posts : 9
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64


    Quote Originally Posted by skallal View Post
    There doesn't seem to be a touch based equivalent...
    Yeah. I guess it's because those tools are all in "old desktop style", not very friendly for touch only devices.
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  6. #16


    Portsmouth Hants
    Posts : 772
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by Cly View Post

    Installing in VHD was pretty smooth, and you were right it is the way to go. I have to say I am liking Win 8. I am not impressed with the startup time, compared to Win 7 on SSD. (The VHD is on a mechanical drive.) Maybe the funky hibernation shutdown is disabled when booting from VHD?

    I am really surprised that MS endorses hibernation on shut-down. Doesn't that screw up the computer over time, as memory isn't freed up etc.? Maybe they use some kind of partial hibernation of just parts of the memory? I have this engrained idea, from the days of Windows XP, that you have to really shut down a computer when you shut it down or else it will act up on you. Plus it's more secure.
    Things have moved on since XP.

    Windows 8 is all about overturning ingrained ideas about how computers running Windows are used. Not just in appearance and multifunctionality, but in general operation too.

    The power button is programmed to do what you want in your power options.

    Management is carried on as background tasks, stopping faulty processes from crashing the machine, usually exiting these gracefully if there is a problem (and reporting errors via WER to help improve future performance).

    Memory and disk fragmentation undergo continuous maintenance, especially in 64-bit Windows on multicore machines with plenty of memory.

    Regular updates fix problems you were unaware of, based on over 12 years of automatically collected data. Updates now even allow you 2 days before automatically restarting your PC.

    Redundant stores of Windows System components can replace corrupt system files on the fly.

    It's not perfect yet - but it is getting there.

    VHD installations do provide different challenges for the system - the swapfile (pagefile.sys) lives outside the VHD, and there is no hiberfil.sys or swapfile.sys in the root folder of the VHD. Thus hibernation is not possible and there is an extended boot time due to a 30-odd GB VHD file being mounted, but it is still a huge improvement when compared with like-for-like installations of earlier Windows versions.

    Security comes down to two things; in order of importance:

    1. The user.

    2. The techniques applied to secure the computer.

    With a knowledgeable user that is aware of the dangers, avoids the worst scenarios, and takes minimal precautions in the infrastructure of their system, there is very little that can go inexorably wrong.

    With a fool or ignorant user running the most secured system possible, there will be a fatal problem before long.
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