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View Poll Results: Hot tablet Price Sector

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  • $800 plus

    2 7.41%
  • $500 - $600

    6 22.22%
  • $300 - $400

    9 33.33%
  • $150 - $250

    10 37.04%
  1. #41


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Hi whs,

    I might be tempted by one of those myself.

    Not just yet - they are getting better all the time.
    Me too. Originally I was no big Android fan. It seemed to be stitched with a hot needle. But the feedback on V4.0 and V4,1 is pretty good. And then there is always something new to learn.

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  2. #42


    Posts : 53
    Windows 8: RP


    I don't get it.
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  3. #43


    Posts : 116
    xp , 7Pro, 8RP, Android phone, Tablet


    My view of the future of tablets
    First we need better definitions to differentiate smart-phones, tablets at 5in 7in 10in.
    this would then reflect the price range they should fall into.
    Look at my "sig-pic" the little guy is a 5" streak smart phone the other is a 10" Hannspad.
    They both cost me 150 S/H as I wanted to get my hands on them to test out their potential.

    Needless to say both devices got hacked somewhat and what I considered to be useful apps installed
    including "decent" as opposed to "noddy" satnav, kindle reader, email, browsers firefox - opera, music and video players etc.F.O.C

    I let the kids (40yr olds!)borrow the streak to guage their reactions
    Note they both have iphone4s blackberries of some sort and ipads, laptops but are not in IT.
    First reaction thats not a phone its a house brick; I cannot possibly use it.
    2 days later "I like the larger screen it is better to watch vids - I can can type on the screen easier etc"
    Question by me "would you swap your iphone for this"
    "NO it is not trendy but if it became mainstream I would"

    Coke says tablets are only useful as toys - "pardon?"
    MY 10in tablet probably copes with approx 80% of my activity.
    I can't run - Excel, Intense GFX editing programs, web development or play intense cpu/gfx games aka skyrim.

    The above gives a small indication of some of my experimentation so far.
    So off the top of my head here is my breakdown

    The younger generation (sub 40yrs) mobility is the key. They have a panic attack if they mislay their phones.
    Tablets will kill off the low powered notebooks (not high class laptops).
    Phones will grow to have bigger better screens as visual content is more important now

    General users 85%
    I will divide that into 2 classes -
    - professionals with a reasonable income, or company issued devices 15%; will readily spend 500
    - mass market (facebook crowd) 70%; 100 to 300 maxing out their credit cards or on contract because it is a must have.

    Enthusiasts 10% This is far more difficult as one must consider disposable income; 200 to 600

    Remaining 5% Thats us folks! who look at the capabilities, lifetime cost of ownership, 200 to 1000 depending on specific needs.

    And from a commercial point of view "and the Winners are" :-
    1st; a sub 400 5in smart-phone/tablet for complete mobility as a single device.
    2nd place; a 10" - 12" tablet that replaces notebooks with greater cpu/ memory capability etc
    3rd place: a 7" tablet mainly because it will end up falling between two stools and it does not fit in your pocket.

    Note I have quite deliberately ignored the Apple/MS/Android battles they will all get a share.
    my guess is Android purely and simply because Apple is a total -lockout at the smart phone level, Ms are greedy and set their licency fee to high.
    The "cloud"/app purchase does not really effect mass market purchaser they do not weigh in the cost of drip feeding s
    they already do that on Itunes and google market place.
    10" tablet; MS simply because of the installed base and the fact that the majority by far are windows users.
    7" cant really pick a winner here it will depend on price Apple will be fighting off Android, MS will be too high.

    Do my all means, disagree, I was reading the thread and replied off the top of my head
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  4. #44


    BELGIUM
    Posts : 503
    WINDOWS 8.1 x64


    BESB, I quote you here:

    "Coke says tablets are only useful as toys - "pardon?"

    Well he is right, sorry


    Jeff

    I have to edit this:

    "The younger generation (sub 40yrs) mobility is the key. They have a panic attack if they mislay their phones.
    Tablets will kill off the low powered notebooks (not high class laptops)."

    A panic attack.....who are we talking about....younsters 10-12 years old. Come on. And if your phone gives you that...get a life

    That tablets will kill the low powered notebooks, that is not impressive. Who wants a low powered notebook or tablet.

    As I see it, Tablets are good for fun and younsters, but if you want to use ANY pc seriously, tablets do not do the trick.

    I mean, I can well live without a tablet, cannot live without my pc.

    Sorry for that.

    Jeff
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  5. #45


    Posts : 902
    Win8.1 Pro, Desktop Mode


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    There also isn't much of an argument for android now since the main competitor of the ipad is now Windows 8, it genuinely is.
    No, it isn't. It really isn't.

    Best case scenario for win8, it rises to "also ran" status, but I doubt it even achieves that.
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  6. #46


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by besb View Post
    My view of the future of tablets
    First we need better definitions to differentiate smart-phones, tablets at 5in 7in 10in.
    this would then reflect the price range they should fall into.
    Look at my "sig-pic" the little guy is a 5" streak smart phone the other is a 10" Hannspad.
    They both cost me 150 S/H as I wanted to get my hands on them to test out their potential.

    Needless to say both devices got hacked somewhat and what I considered to be useful apps installed
    including "decent" as opposed to "noddy" satnav, kindle reader, email, browsers firefox - opera, music and video players etc.F.O.C

    I let the kids (40yr olds!)borrow the streak to guage their reactions
    Note they both have iphone4s blackberries of some sort and ipads, laptops but are not in IT.
    First reaction thats not a phone its a house brick; I cannot possibly use it.
    2 days later "I like the larger screen it is better to watch vids - I can can type on the screen easier etc"
    Question by me "would you swap your iphone for this"
    "NO it is not trendy but if it became mainstream I would"

    Coke says tablets are only useful as toys - "pardon?"
    MY 10in tablet probably copes with approx 80% of my activity.
    I can't run - Excel, Intense GFX editing programs, web development or play intense cpu/gfx games aka skyrim.

    The above gives a small indication of some of my experimentation so far.
    So off the top of my head here is my breakdown

    The younger generation (sub 40yrs) mobility is the key. They have a panic attack if they mislay their phones.
    Tablets will kill off the low powered notebooks (not high class laptops).
    Phones will grow to have bigger better screens as visual content is more important now

    General users 85%
    I will divide that into 2 classes -
    - professionals with a reasonable income, or company issued devices 15%; will readily spend 500
    - mass market (facebook crowd) 70%; 100 to 300 maxing out their credit cards or on contract because it is a must have.

    Enthusiasts 10% This is far more difficult as one must consider disposable income; 200 to 600

    Remaining 5% Thats us folks! who look at the capabilities, lifetime cost of ownership, 200 to 1000 depending on specific needs.

    And from a commercial point of view "and the Winners are" :-
    1st; a sub 400 5in smart-phone/tablet for complete mobility as a single device.
    2nd place; a 10" - 12" tablet that replaces notebooks with greater cpu/ memory capability etc
    3rd place: a 7" tablet mainly because it will end up falling between two stools and it does not fit in your pocket.

    Note I have quite deliberately ignored the Apple/MS/Android battles they will all get a share.
    my guess is Android purely and simply because Apple is a total -lockout at the smart phone level, Ms are greedy and set their licency fee to high.
    The "cloud"/app purchase does not really effect mass market purchaser they do not weigh in the cost of drip feeding s
    they already do that on Itunes and google market place.
    10" tablet; MS simply because of the installed base and the fact that the majority by far are windows users.
    7" cant really pick a winner here it will depend on price Apple will be fighting off Android, MS will be too high.

    Do my all means, disagree, I was reading the thread and replied off the top of my head
    I never really said that tablets were all plaything toys, not until Wndows came around. I find that Android is more a menial
    device that's aimed more on the very casual side of things. To me, I would rather have a tablet that covers more ground usage wise, which Windows 8 does.

    But overall, I do agree with your breakdown, it sounds correct.
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  7. #47


    Posts : 116
    xp , 7Pro, 8RP, Android phone, Tablet


    Jeff OK your opinion.
    I was attempting to do this from unbiased viewpoint relative to the future for tablets not my own personal preferences.
    I want a proper pc , I am in my study, I can see 4 desktops, 2 of which are servers and the one I am using. A desktop being fixed for a friend, 3 laptops 1 mine 2 being fixed. There is probably another 3 in the house. Does this qualify in your terms
    I use a tablet when traveling, in preference to my netbook.
    "Get a life" I am to old now 74 - had my first pc about 1983 - Traveled extensively over 6 continents - married with grand children. Ran my own company is that enough.
    low powered netbook - the odd million or so who have bought them!
    You lug your pc around on business and holiday odds on you will get a tablet in the future.
    the thread title is
    Poll: Hot tablet Price Sector

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  8. #48


    Posts : 116
    xp , 7Pro, 8RP, Android phone, Tablet


    Coke Ok I will back off a bit, But having used Android 1 thru 4 the change has been absolutely remarkable in the speed of development. I would also bet that I will moan like hell about the price (grumpy old man) but then will buy the MS offering to see if it is good as the hype, then moan again.
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  9. #49


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    I want to add to the younger crowd freaking out over a misplaced phone. Believe me, it happens. I've seen a few people come to tye verge of tears. It's hilarious yes, but a bit sad. There's a saying I've heard. It goes, "Losing your phone is more dramatic than losing your virginity."
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  10. #50


    Hafnarfjrur IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there
    a tablet might well do 80% of your needs -- butyou probably NEED the other 20% MORE than the 80% -

    Here's me - over 40's Engineer -- have I.T Knowledge - used computers for years but not an "I.T'er".

    1) I'd be 100% STUCK if I couldn't do EXCEL
    2) I could live for WEEKS without Internet - EMAIL, Social networking sites etc.
    3) I could actually manage for a few days without a phone -- but on an Engineering project the company would give you one anyway.

    To me a Tablet is a Silly device -- the latest generation of smart phones have a decent size screen (Samsung Galaxy III-S) so why would I need a tablet AS WELL.

    A Laptop is 100% essential in my case.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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