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Win8 adaption really low at this point in the beta cycle.

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    Win8 adaption really low at this point in the beta cycle 0.18%.


    Windows 8 Lags Windows 7 in Previews | PCWorld

    PC World pulled out this stat which shows how few people are presently using Win8 of some flavor (0.19%). Win7 Beta was much higher at this point in its launch, nearly 4 times the amount.

    With an October launch, these numbers are meager. Are these published stats wrong? Has anyone seen a different number for Win8 users?

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    Hafnarfjörđur IS
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    Hi there
    Is this really any surprise -- after all what does W8 really offer people who are happy using W7 at this point -- remember also people (nearly 50% of Windows users) are STLL using XP.

    Of course on these forums we get people who want to try out new OS'es but the average joe doesn't really care -- they buy a computer, take it home and expect it to work nagware and all -- if it wasn't like this do you think for a minute the amount of crapware on OEM machines would still be around.

    W8 could have a place but with that hideous metro stuff most "Normal" PC users will just ignore it.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    It doesn't surprise me. XP, Vista, to Windows 7 XP, Vista, or Windows 7 to Windows 8,
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    I find this odd, I didn't even care about Windows 7 as I didn't see any point in upgrading to it, everything it did Vista could do. But Windows 8 on the over hand has given me a lot of reasons to upgrade.
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    Depends what you do really.

    For many real enthusiasts , metro and the concentration as a consumption device are a pain in the arse.

    Even more so if you like to mod, build pe and that kind of thing - it is very restrictive.

    Even for those who don't do anything complicated, metro is weird, and there is a huge objection to the removal of choice and the attempt to force users to do things MS way - mostly to push them into the MS clouds.

    It is way too aggressive.

    MS have succeeded in alienating a big chunk of their existing users. Completely unnecessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChotaDon View Post
    I find this odd, I didn't even care about Windows 7 as I didn't see any point in upgrading to it, everything it did Vista could do. But Windows 8 on the over hand has given me a lot of reasons to upgrade.
    What a strange thing to say.

    Windows 7 introduced the new taskbar with pinning, jumplists, progress indicators, etc, merging the original and limited window-finding capability of the taskbar with new program organization and launching capabilities, obsoleting 3rd party program managers by providing an alternative to the unusable Start Menu and desktop. Windows 8 replaces the unusable but occasionally useful Start Menu with the unusable and useless Metro Start Screen.

    Windows 8 brings a ribbon to Windows Explorer. Finally, I have a direct and easy way to show hidden files when necessary! Worth $40? Nah. Windows 8 also brings a bunch of pathetic "apps" filled with in-your-face ads that represent Microsoft's hopes of monetizing everything you do, and in developing this garbage, they've neglected many other things.

    Windows 7 introduced Homegroups (good) and Libaries (sort of good). Windows 8 introduces Storage Spaces (good, but most people won't care).

    Windows 7 brought a few improvements to Media Center that had their origins in that horribly buggy Vista TV Pack, and it later added CableCARD support for all. Windows 8 adds nothing to Media Center, fixes no bugs, removes a couple of capabilities important to HTPC users that have appliance-like HTPCs, and actually makes it a paid upgrade.

    Windows 7 brought much better driver support to Windows. Windows 8 will strive to be as good.

    In reality, there were many reasons to upgrade to Windows 7, and there is essentially no reason to upgrade to Windows 8. In fact, there are many more reasons to reject Windows 8 than there are to upgrade to it.
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    Makes perfect sense. Windows 8 is designed for the Metro interface, but there aren't very many Metro apps yet; so Metro just adds another unwieldy step to using Desktop applications.

    I personally would love to use Windows 8 on my HTPC, but I need three applications to be ported to true Metro:

    Google Chrome

    Media Browser, or another application that manages my Movies and TV Shows. Also Metro doesn't use DirectShow, so I'd need a new codec pack.

    Blu-ray player.



    Until I can get these three apps, Windows 8 is useless to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FuturDreamz View Post
    I personally would love to use Windows 8 on my HTPC
    Metro might make a tiny amount of sense for HTPC purposes if Metro tiles were nested like folders are. As it stands right now, sure, you could have a bunch of unrelated apps "unified" in a weak sense by the Metro start screen, but they would appear in a sea of apps that have no business being presented alongside programs designed for a 10' interface. This is important, because you'll be bouncing in and out of apps to the Start screen to switch. Maybe you can just try to stay in your little island of disconnected media apps. I guess if you're adept with Autohotkey and remote control hacking you could configure keys to launch the various major "apps", functionality that's already part of the unified 10' programs like Media Center and XBMC. I guess if you want to be Metro all the way, you have to figure out how to make, say, the Music app stop playing when you switch to the TV app and tune in a channel. Remember, all these apps are disconnected. They're unified only in the most superficial of ways by the Metro Start Screen. OTOH, I'd like my TV app to be displayable in a window that doesn't take up the whole screen, that I can size and place wherever I want, which is completely at odds with Metro.

    The 10' interface problem was solved 10 years ago. Metro just brings new problems to the table and doesn't give you any new capabilities.

    but I need three applications to be ported to true Metro:

    Google Chrome

    Media Browser, or another application that manages my Movies and TV Shows. Also Metro doesn't use DirectShow, so I'd need a new codec pack.

    Blu-ray player.
    I use XBMC for all non-Recorded TV, library-based video, and it is excellent. I don't need Media Browser because XBMC does what it does for free, and I'm not keeping a lot of huge, commercial-laden MPEG2 files around long-term anyway so don't care about having a good library system inside Media Center. I don't need potentially buggy, spyware-laden codec packs because everything is built into XBMC; in fact, I've never downloaded much less installed a codec pack. As for playing physical Blurays, I gave up on that long ago on the PC and bought a standalone player That Just Works WRT things like 1080p24 and the lossless audio codecs. That was a great decision. I only wish I had made it before buying PowerDVD, WinDVD, and Arcsoft TMT. On the plus side, I learned my lesson and will never buy another such program.
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    I think that Windows 7's beta adoption numbers were much higher for one reasons, because people on Vista didn't like it that much. Windows 7 was billed as the cure for Vista, and lots of Vista users moved to it in beta. Most people are happy with Win7, and as such only the bleeding edge adopters are really running it.
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