So Microsoft stopped supporting Win8, is Win10 bad?

BinkerNate

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News broke today, 1/12/16, that Microsoft stopped its support for Windows 8, as well as IE. All of this in favor for Windows 10, which has been on the news alot, and even popping up in my computer, like all of you have experiencing.

So if support for Win8 has stopped, two questions I have to ask:

1) Is Windows 10, both getting it and having it, bad?

2) If you want to stick with Windows 8, what can you not do anymore, and what can you do if something happens and you need them?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    iBUYPOWER
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 (4th Generation)
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GTX 650
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer S232HL
    Hard Drives
    SATA III
    Internet Speed
    Ping: 35, Download: 472.91, Upload: 22.86 (as of 6/26/20)
    Browser
    Firefox (IE installed also)
    Antivirus
    MalwareBytes, SUPERAntiSpyware, Windows Defender
Windows 8.1 is still supported. Do the update from 8.0 to 8.1.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro X64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo IdeaCenter K450
    CPU
    Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Integrated HD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP h2207
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050@59Hz
    Hard Drives
    250GB Samsung EVO SATA-3 SSD;
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 SATA-2;
    1.5TB Seagate ST3150041AS SATA
    PSU
    500W
    Keyboard
    Wired USB
    Mouse
    Wired USB
    Internet Speed
    3GB Up, 30GB Down
    Browser
    SeaMonkey
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender; MBAM Pro
    Other Info
    UEFI/GPT
    PLDS DVD-RW DH16AERSH
Windows 8.1 is still supported. Do the update from 8.0 to 8.1.

Oh, I already have 8.1. I thought it was for Win8 in general.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    iBUYPOWER
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 (4th Generation)
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GTX 650
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer S232HL
    Hard Drives
    SATA III
    Internet Speed
    Ping: 35, Download: 472.91, Upload: 22.86 (as of 6/26/20)
    Browser
    Firefox (IE installed also)
    Antivirus
    MalwareBytes, SUPERAntiSpyware, Windows Defender
Windows 8.1 mainline support will continue until January 9, 2018 with extended support until January 10, 2023. Until the end of mainline support nothing changes. At that time only security updates will be provided which will continue until extended support ends. But even the end of extended support does not mean the OS cannot be used. Extended support ended for XP last year and many individuals and businesses continue to use it as always.

As for Windows 10. Many people love it while others hate it. New operating systems always have problems. Microsoft says that Windows 10 has been installed on over 200 million computers. Many millions are using it with no problems at all. But with that large a user base it is inevitable that there will be many that do have issues. And it is in the nature of things that many of these individuals will come to forums for help. That doesn't mean it is a bad OS. Even XP, clearly one of the most successful operating systems over, was much criticized in it's early days.

What is different with Windows 10 is that since it is being offered as a free upgrade to Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 it is being adopted faster than with any other OS. That means more people with problems.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
Yeah, I was just concerned because 8.1 is great, and no one would (they could) disagree with me. Given the criticisms, I didn't want to upgrade to 10. I know I will eventually in the future, but I want to do it when all the bugs are fixed and I'm not one of the critics against Win10 but one of the supporters. But by that time, maybe it will be too little too late to get it for free, or to get 10 altogether (you never know when the next OS that is "better than 10" will come out, am I right?)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    iBUYPOWER
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 (4th Generation)
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GTX 650
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer S232HL
    Hard Drives
    SATA III
    Internet Speed
    Ping: 35, Download: 472.91, Upload: 22.86 (as of 6/26/20)
    Browser
    Firefox (IE installed also)
    Antivirus
    MalwareBytes, SUPERAntiSpyware, Windows Defender
7 and 8.1 will be around for a long time still. Especially with 7 now being used in the workplace.

People are waking up and seeing that 10 still has little hiccups with each update on the OS. You most likely will not see a huge rush to 10, until right before schools go back in session in Aug/Sept.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Linux Mint 17.2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Toshiba Satellite C850D-st3nx1
    CPU
    AMD E1-1200 APU with Radeon (tm) HD Graphics 1.40 GHZ
    Memory
    12GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon™ HD 7310 Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LCD
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    Crucial M500 240GB SSD
    Mouse
    Logitech M525
    Internet Speed
    45/6 - ATT U-Verse
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    None needed. It is Linux.
    Other Info
    Arris NVG589 Gateway; Router - Cisco RV320; Switch - Netgear GS108 8-Port Switch & Trendnet TEG-S50g 5-Port Switch; Access Points - Engenius ECB350, Trendnet TEW-638APB; NAS - Lenovo ix2-4; Printer - Brother HL-2280DW; Air Print Server - Lantronix XPrintServer

    A/V UPS - Tripp-Lite Smart 1500LCD 1500 Va/900 W.
The rush will be the week or two before next July 29th when the free upgrade offer expires, so if you plan to upgrade I'd suggest doing it before then.

I know I will eventually in the future, but I want to do it when all the bugs are fixed

You'll be waiting forever if this is your criteria as all the bugs will never be fixed.

Plan now on doing an image backup to an external hard drive using Macrium Reflect Free (or similar). Start doing this now as protection for your current Windows 8.1 install and continue to do this on a regular basis. Just before upgrading to Windows 10, do a last image backup, then if anything goes wrong recovery is 20 minutes away.

If you don't have an external hard drive, get one. You can get a 1TB USB 3.0 external drive for less than $60. Macrium Reflect Free is free :)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro X64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo IdeaCenter K450
    CPU
    Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Integrated HD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP h2207
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050@59Hz
    Hard Drives
    250GB Samsung EVO SATA-3 SSD;
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 SATA-2;
    1.5TB Seagate ST3150041AS SATA
    PSU
    500W
    Keyboard
    Wired USB
    Mouse
    Wired USB
    Internet Speed
    3GB Up, 30GB Down
    Browser
    SeaMonkey
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender; MBAM Pro
    Other Info
    UEFI/GPT
    PLDS DVD-RW DH16AERSH
But even the end of extended support does not mean the OS cannot be used. Extended support ended for XP last year and many individuals and businesses continue to use it as always.

That would include me. At work we still have a system running on XP, and I am typing this from Pale Moon, running on the classic Windows 8. So I'm staying put.
:)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 x64 Professional
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP xw8600 Workstation
    CPU
    Two Intel Xeon Core2 Quad 3.2 GHz Processors
    Motherboard
    Proprietary
    Memory
    16 GB DDR2 800 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia Quadro FX 3800 PCI-E
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster 213T 21" 4x3 Flat Screen
    Screen Resolution
    1600x1200
    Hard Drives
    Two Seagate Cheetah 300 GB SAS Disks
    PSU
    Proprietary
    Case
    HP xw8600 Workstation Case
    Cooling
    Two CPU Fans and a Larger Case Fan
    Keyboard
    PS/2 Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech USB Optical Mouse
    Internet Speed
    7 mbps
    Browser
    Firefox ESR 102
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Two LSI 3000 SAS Adapters
Yeah 8.1 has life in it yet as well as 7.

I will never say never for windows 10 but I will wait for sure before deciding to use it on production machines, however am in the process of upgrading some win7 machines to 8.1. So even with win10 out I am only just upgrading to win8.1, no shame in not been on the latest.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Update 1 64bit Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    i5 4670k @ 4.3ghz
    Motherboard
    Asus Z87 Plus
    Memory
    16 Gig 1600 Corsair Vengeance
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GTX 970 FTW ACX2.0
    Sound Card
    Asus Xonar D2X
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BenQ GW2765HT
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 850 Pro 512 gig, boot. Have other HDD's for storage.
    PSU
    Coolermaster SilentPro M 600W
    Case
    Fractal R4 Design
    Cooling
    2 front intake fans, 1 exhaust fan at back all 140mm
    Internet Speed
    80/20
    Browser
    Multiple
    Antivirus
    ESET v8 AV
    Other Info
    May add missing info later

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro X64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo IdeaCenter K450
    CPU
    Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Integrated HD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP h2207
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050@59Hz
    Hard Drives
    250GB Samsung EVO SATA-3 SSD;
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 SATA-2;
    1.5TB Seagate ST3150041AS SATA
    PSU
    500W
    Keyboard
    Wired USB
    Mouse
    Wired USB
    Internet Speed
    3GB Up, 30GB Down
    Browser
    SeaMonkey
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender; MBAM Pro
    Other Info
    UEFI/GPT
    PLDS DVD-RW DH16AERSH
who is that reply to?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Update 1 64bit Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    i5 4670k @ 4.3ghz
    Motherboard
    Asus Z87 Plus
    Memory
    16 Gig 1600 Corsair Vengeance
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GTX 970 FTW ACX2.0
    Sound Card
    Asus Xonar D2X
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BenQ GW2765HT
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 850 Pro 512 gig, boot. Have other HDD's for storage.
    PSU
    Coolermaster SilentPro M 600W
    Case
    Fractal R4 Design
    Cooling
    2 front intake fans, 1 exhaust fan at back all 140mm
    Internet Speed
    80/20
    Browser
    Multiple
    Antivirus
    ESET v8 AV
    Other Info
    May add missing info later
But even the end of extended support does not mean the OS cannot be used. Extended support ended for XP last year and many individuals and businesses continue to use it as always.

That would include me. At work we still have a system running on XP, and I am typing this from Pale Moon, running on the classic Windows 8. So I'm staying put.
:)

Stay on an unsupported OS or take a free upgrade to one that will be supported for years to come - I know what I would do.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    me
    CPU
    i9
Stay on an unsupported OS or take a free upgrade to one that will be supported for years to come - I know what I would do.
There is no OS out there that is supported for years to come. They all have a end life. 7 will be used in the Enterprise for as long as XP has been.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Linux Mint 17.2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Toshiba Satellite C850D-st3nx1
    CPU
    AMD E1-1200 APU with Radeon (tm) HD Graphics 1.40 GHZ
    Memory
    12GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon™ HD 7310 Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LCD
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    Crucial M500 240GB SSD
    Mouse
    Logitech M525
    Internet Speed
    45/6 - ATT U-Verse
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    None needed. It is Linux.
    Other Info
    Arris NVG589 Gateway; Router - Cisco RV320; Switch - Netgear GS108 8-Port Switch & Trendnet TEG-S50g 5-Port Switch; Access Points - Engenius ECB350, Trendnet TEW-638APB; NAS - Lenovo ix2-4; Printer - Brother HL-2280DW; Air Print Server - Lantronix XPrintServer

    A/V UPS - Tripp-Lite Smart 1500LCD 1500 Va/900 W.
But even the end of extended support does not mean the OS cannot be used. Extended support ended for XP last year and many individuals and businesses continue to use it as always.

That would include me. At work we still have a system running on XP, and I am typing this from Pale Moon, running on the classic Windows 8. So I'm staying put.
:)

Stay on an unsupported OS or take a free upgrade to one that will be supported for years to come - I know what I would do.

Extensively posted on other threads that my box (Two Netburst-style Xeons on an HP xw8200) cannot be upgraded to Windows 8.1. So for x64, I'm stuck on Windows 8. I used to be on Vista (which still has support), but even Windows 8 runs way better.

On the flip-side, I'm rescued from all of that telemetry crap, and no nag screens telling me to upgrade to Windows 10. Also, there may be a possibility that Server 2012 updates (from the classic build) can be implanted onto Windows 8.

EDIT !!! - Also when I get a new machine, I can use my Windows 8 Pro license to upgrade to Windows 8.1 Pro.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 x64 Professional
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP xw8600 Workstation
    CPU
    Two Intel Xeon Core2 Quad 3.2 GHz Processors
    Motherboard
    Proprietary
    Memory
    16 GB DDR2 800 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia Quadro FX 3800 PCI-E
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster 213T 21" 4x3 Flat Screen
    Screen Resolution
    1600x1200
    Hard Drives
    Two Seagate Cheetah 300 GB SAS Disks
    PSU
    Proprietary
    Case
    HP xw8600 Workstation Case
    Cooling
    Two CPU Fans and a Larger Case Fan
    Keyboard
    PS/2 Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech USB Optical Mouse
    Internet Speed
    7 mbps
    Browser
    Firefox ESR 102
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Two LSI 3000 SAS Adapters

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Pro X64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo IdeaCenter K450
    CPU
    Intel Quad Core i7-4770 @ 3.4Ghz
    Motherboard
    Lenovo
    Memory
    16.0GB PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Integrated HD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP h2207
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050@59Hz
    Hard Drives
    250GB Samsung EVO SATA-3 SSD;
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM001 SATA-2;
    1.5TB Seagate ST3150041AS SATA
    PSU
    500W
    Keyboard
    Wired USB
    Mouse
    Wired USB
    Internet Speed
    3GB Up, 30GB Down
    Browser
    SeaMonkey
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender; MBAM Pro
    Other Info
    UEFI/GPT
    PLDS DVD-RW DH16AERSH
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