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average wait to get Windows 10??

  1. #11


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    Again stop spreading FUD. There is no personal information being sent out to some ABC agency, etc. by Windows 10. You can imagine all of this as much as you want. But there are no back doors, no personal collection of information, no invasion of privacy, no breaking of any laws by Microsoft or anyone else.

    This issue is closed.

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  2. #12


    You'll never close this issue. People are concerned about there privacy and will continue to react negatively to what MS is doing. It doesn't matter if MS is doing something wrong or not, it's what people think their doing that matters. I think they have gone overboard on this but I'm not paranoid about it and it won't keep me from using what I believe is the best OS MS has ever released, especially now with TH2 released.

    We ought to keep a thread on this open as a place where people can vent and perhaps receive clear, truthful information on what is really being collected and where it gets sent. To see this keep popping up in multiple threads is just a distraction to the thread topic.
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  3. #13


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ztruker View Post
    You'll never close this issue. People are concerned about there privacy and will continue to react negatively to what MS is doing. It doesn't matter if MS is doing something wrong or not, it's what people think their doing that matters. I think they have gone overboard on this but I'm not paranoid about it and it won't keep me from using what I believe is the best OS MS has ever released, especially now with TH2 released.

    We ought to keep a thread on this open as a place where people can vent and perhaps receive clear, truthful information on what is really being collected and where it gets sent. To see this keep popping up in multiple threads is just a distraction to the thread topic.
    The part that gets me is that the first thing that pops up on a new install, is not only the OEM TOS, but also Microsoft's. Then you get to the various settings that you are able to not allow Windows 8 & 10 to not send out to third party's or Microsoft.

    No one ever takes the time to look at that stuff. It is the same thing when they sign up for Cellphone, Internet, Cable TV/Satellite TV/Credit Cards/Banking/Vehicle Sales/Property Sales. Everyone just wants to sign on the line and be blind about what they are agreeing to. There have actually been software writers that have hidden Easter Eggs in the TOS, that if you read the info. One of them actually had hidden the info to get a free license for their software, for those who actually took the time to read it.

    Even Microsoft hid a Easter Egg in one of the Windows version's that was loaded on OEM machines. If people actually took the time to read it. It stated that you could actually ask for a refund on the installed Windows, as long as you never activated the OS. Only one person found that by finding it and challenging the TOS, which Microsoft gave the person a refund on the cost for Windows.

    https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/.../dn613836.aspx

    When you activate a computer running Windows 8.1, the following information is sent to Microsoft:

    • The Microsoft product code (a five-digit code that identifies the Windows product you are activating)
    • A channel ID or site code that identifies how the Windows product was originally obtained

      For example, a channel ID or site code identifies whether the product was originally purchased from a retail store, obtained as an evaluation copy, obtained through a volume licensing program, or preinstalled by a computer manufacturer.
    • The date of installation and whether the installation was successful
    • Information that helps confirm that your Windows product key has not been altered
    • Computer make and model
    • Version information for the operating system and software
    • Region and language settings
    • A unique number called a globally unique identifier, which is assigned to your computer
    • Product key (hashed) and product ID
    • BIOS name, revision number, and revision date
    • Volume serial number (hashed) of the hard disk drive
    • The result of the activation check

      This includes error codes and the following information about any activation exploits and related malicious or unauthorized software that was found or disabled:
      • The activation exploit’s identifier
      • The activation exploit’s current state, such as cleaned or quarantined
      • Computer manufacturer’s identification
      • The activation exploit’s file name and hash in addition to a hash of related software components that may indicate the presence of an activation exploit

    • The name and a hash of the contents of your computer’s startup instructions file
    • If your Windows license is on a subscription basis, information about how your subscription works

    Standard computer information is also sent, but your computer’s IP address is only retained temporarily.
    Use of information



    Microsoft uses the information to confirm that you have a licensed copy of the software. Microsoft does not use the information to contact individual consumers.
    For additional details, see Windows 8.1 and Windows Server 2012 R2 Privacy Statement.

    Windows 10 Telemetry & other settings gathered and sent by Windows 10. https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/...(v=vs.85).aspx

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  4. #14


    Not much of a change for sure. I guess, as you said earlier, the real difference is MS is now telling us what they are doing.
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  5. #15


    Central IL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ztruker View Post
    Not much of a change for sure. I guess, as you said earlier, the real difference is MS is now telling us what they are doing.
    True. Even before they tried with XP & Vista. But no one pays any attention, when they just want to get up and running.
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