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Nope! Decided 8.1 not worth risk

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    Nope! Decided 8.1 not worth risk


    Win. 8/64 bit
    Lenovo PC
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    i have gotten nice feed=back insofar as my updating to 8.1 pros/cons. Now reading some other boards i'm hearing about ''drivers' corrupted/ printers not working/ trying to turn on computer after the 8.1 install resulting in ''blue'' screens happening/not being able to even have the computer turn on ../ or having to reinstall previous programs,etc. etc. if you can get it to boot up. .... frankly it's all giving me a good case of ''cold feet' insofar as the 8.1 update.
    As i mentioned before i do no 'business' (banking/paying bills, etc on line) i only do emails/read papers/ save a few files to PDF/ have McAfee Security Suite + 2 maleware programs. I don't click on hyperlinks even if i know the person sending the email containing them and don't reply back using the ''reply'' button to ask if indeed they sent the email containing the hyperlink; i simply start a new email form for safety's sake.
    i realize Microsoft will not be supporting Win. 8 but i couldn't go thru all of the above stress if the 8.1 install doesn't 'take' or causes problems as above. So as of this junction, i'm staying with Win. 8. Not saying i'm making a wise decision but my crystal ball is at the cleaners.... best to anyone reading this ..
    PS: I DO have the 8.1 required KB 2861389/KB3008273 downloaded as updates but do not have ''auto install' for the updates so KB3008273 cannot do the auto install of 8.1....i choose what i want .... i did read they can be 'uninstalled' but i had tried to do that with another update only to have the 'uninstall' cause problems (thankfully my Lenovo 'rescue'' program took over) !! sheesh - what's with Microsoft ?

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  2. #2


    N. Calif
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    W10 Pro (desktop), W10 (laptop), W10 Pro (tablet), W10 (laptop)


    Learn how to make system images using software such as macrium reflect. That way you can take an image, do the upgrade and, if you don't like it or something goes wrong, you can restore your system back to the way it was before you did the upgrade using the system image.

    Living in fear that anything you do to your computer could cause a problem is no way to go thru life, especially when there are ways to protect yourself.

    Personally, I have upgraded a dozen or more computers from 8 to 8.1 and didn't encounter a single glitch. I'm sure there are millions of other users out there that had a similar experience. Yes, some have encountered problems but those problems could have been mitigated by making a system image beforehand. Those that encountered problems are a very small minority.
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    Windows 8 (plain '8')


    Quote Originally Posted by strollin View Post
    Learn how to make system images using software such as macrium reflect. That way you can take an image, do the upgrade and, if you don't like it or something goes wrong, you can restore your system back to the way it was before you did the upgrade using the system image.

    Living in fear that anything you do to your computer could cause a problem is no way to go thru life, especially when there are ways to protect yourself.

    Personally, I have upgraded a dozen or more computers from 8 to 8.1 and didn't encounter a single glitch. I'm sure there are millions of other users out there that had a similar experience. Yes, some have encountered problems but those problems could have been mitigated by making a system image beforehand.
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    I totally agree with your reason and logic: that said, i still won't do the upgrade ... at my stage of life it's just not 'that' important insofar as using a computer for only mundane things like email/reading papers isn't worth the possible 'angst' ...granted millions have had no problem, but many have - i could become part of those statistics.
    I agree - happy customers don't notify the company; others with product-failure do...it's a toss of the dice. I don't know how to go about making a mitigated sys-image.....i just don't want to get involved.
    I'm glad you had success and if i were fortunate enough to have a pro like yourself i could call upon i might take the chance. But trying to do it 'alone' ? nope! - too old to go thru any possible stresses...i could be missing out on the best thing since creme cheese -and 'if' i lose my computer along the way due to no longer getting security patches/updates for Win 8 then it will be ''my loss' and i'll just go out and get a new one ..but i'll take the gamble this machine will last another few years and 'then i'll buy a PC with Win 10 in place. ....but i sincerely do appreciate your reply
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    Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit


    too old to go thru any possible stresses
    Edythe, that is what keeps me going plus I like to learn by doing.

    But no, don't be forced into doing something you really don't want to do. Really should image your system at least once a month to save a lot of grief (stress) if HDD crashes or other hardware failure.
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    W10 Pro (desktop), W10 (laptop), W10 Pro (tablet), W10 (laptop)


    [QUOTE=popeye;529045]
    ...Really should image your system at least once a month to save a lot of grief (stress) if HDD crashes or other hardware failure.
    I meant to include this point in my post. Every computer user should do backups, at a minimum your important files need to be backed up but as a more complete solution, a system image should be made.

    I'm not sure how old you are Edythe but I don't buy the "I'm too old to learn" excuse. I'm in my 60s and hope I never get to the point where I feel I'm too old to learn new things.

    Whether you upgrade to 8.1 or not is totally your decision and wasn't the point of my post, I'm just trying to nudge you a little so that you can be comfortable with your computer and not so hesitant to try new things.
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    I'm a 77 year old "Florida Retiree", although I'm a retired computer and electronics techie, and support many local Retiree's and their PC's. Age is not really an issue as I have some older than me.

    "I only want the computer for e-mail" is an often mentioned item by my clients until I ask what they are really doing and find out its much more.

    And, backup, backup, backup. I can't stress that enough to my clients. Most have taken heed but I have a couple who refuse to backup and they are "living on the edge". Backups are not for "IF" they are even needed but for "WHEN" it is needed.

    As far as upgrading all my clients that were on Win 8 upgraded to 8.1 (without problems) and most on 8.1 are now on Windows 10. However, the PC hardware dictates whether it really should be upgraded, especially to Win 10. There are those that Microsoft says is Win 10 compatible but really should not be upgraded.
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    Posts : 279
    Windows 8 (plain '8')


    Quote Originally Posted by fireberd View Post
    I'm a 77 year old "Florida Retiree", although I'm a retired computer and electronics techie, and support many local Retiree's and their PC's. Age is not really an issue as I have some older than me. BASED ON YOUR BACKGROUND (AS STATED) YOU HAVE THE 'EXPERIENCE' TO HELP YOURSELF SHOULD PROBLEMS ARISE PLUS 'YOU' ARE 'THERE' FOR YOUR ''LOCAL RETIREES PC's(AS STATED)SO THEY ARE NOT 'HANGING OUT' ON THEIR OWN TRYING TO MAKE DECISIONS/UPGRADES, ETC. UNAIDED.
    "I only want the computer for e-mail" is an often mentioned item by my clients until I ask what they are really doing and find out its much more. I DO NO BUSINESS/MUSIC DOWNLOADS/PROGRAM DOWNLOADS/DO NOT POST ON FACEBOOK OR ANY 'SOCIAL-MEDIA'/
    And, backup, backup, backup. I can't stress that enough to my clients. Most have taken heed but I have a couple who refuse to backup and they are "living on the edge". Backups are not for "IF" they are even needed but for "WHEN" it is needed. I DO HAVE FILES, ETC BACKED-UP ON TWO (DUPLICATES) PORTABLE HARD=DRIVES.
    As far as upgrading all my clients that were on Win 8 upgraded to 8.1 (without problems) and most on 8.1 are now on Windows 10. DID THEY DO THE 8.1 UPGRADE THEMSELVES WITHOUT ''ANY'' HELP?? However, the PC hardware dictates whether it really should be upgraded, especially to Win 10. There are those that Microsoft says is Win 10 compatible but really should not be upgraded.
    I REST MY CASE !
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    [QUOTE=strollin;529077]
    Quote Originally Posted by popeye View Post
    ...Really should image your system at least once a month to save a lot of grief (stress) if HDD crashes or other hardware failure.
    I meant to include this point in my post. Every computer user should do backups, at a minimum your important files need to be backed up but as a more complete solution, a system image should be made. SO....HOW DOES ONE CREATE A ''SYSTEM IMAGE' ? I DO HAVE TWO (DUPLICATES) STAND-ALONE PORTABLE HARD DRIVES OF ALL IMPORTANT FILES.
    I'm not sure how old you are Edythe but I don't buy the "I'm too old to learn" excuse. I'm in my 60s and hope I never get to the point where I feel I'm too old to learn new things.
    Whether you upgrade to 8.1 or not is totally your decision and wasn't the point of my post, I'm just trying to nudge you a little so that you can be comfortable with your computer and not so hesitant to try new things.
    I'M CURIOUS: DID YOU INSTALL 8.1 UPDATE OR DID YOUR COMPUTER COME WITH THE PROGRAM...
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    W10 Pro (desktop), W10 (laptop), W10 Pro (tablet), W10 (laptop)


    That's great that you already back up your files to external drives. If you can do that, you can certainly also create a system image.

    Here's a tutorial on how to use Macrium Reflect to create a system image: Imaging with free Macrium - Windows 7 Help Forums

    At least part of the tutorial deals with creating a boot cd. This is important should your machine ever be in the condition where it cannot boot the OS, such as if your drive failed entirely. In that case, you would use the boot CD to boot the machine and use Macrium Reflect to restore your system image to a new drive.

    As I stated in an earlier post, I have upgraded about a dozen machines from 8 to 8.1 so no, the machines did not come with 8.1 already installed.
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    Not to be sarcastic, but if you don't want to upgrade why even make a post?
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