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What did people do when Windows 95 came out?

  1. #81


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
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    That's awesome. I don't. Our opinions cancel each other out - see how it works? That doesn't make yours or mine better than the other, it means we think differently. It means we use our computers differently - and THIS is why people don't like Metro. It forces them to use their computer in a way that they find counterproductive, as well as counterintuitive. It's a lot deeper than just wanting a Start Button.

    Agreed. I use 7 at home so I can get stuff done quickly. I am on my time and don't want to waste it. At work I use 8 on my laptop where I am less concerned about priductivity and get things done in a timely fashion. LOL!

    I have users that I finally weened off of 98 only 2 years ago because they refused to give it up. Can you imagine trying to move them from xp to 8 metro... They complained that XP was to different from 98. I know what you are going to say... and here is my counter before hand... IT is a service based industry and the like all service based industries the customer comes first so there is no forcing the metro UI on people when there is an alternative. Something I think MS has forgotten along the way.
    Windows 98 being used in the year 2010?!
    Hi there
    and where did most linuxes start from -- much earlier than that too -- the base kernel is still much the same as it was years ago albeit with new features like read and write to NTFS files -- but this stuff is usually loaded as a separate Module rather than being part of the kernel itself --shows how flexible Linux is. (Ok new drivers and GUI's available) but the base OS still has the same features.

    Cheers
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  2. #82


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I have three other people testing Windows 8 Release Preview with me. Two have been using it since Developer, the other has been using it since the Consumer Preview. Though totally different that what they're used to, they actually like using Windows 8. I even probed into the reasoning and it boiled down to the following: no annoying popups at log in, faster and consistent speed, it's just different, and the Start Screen. One told me that the Start Screen is actually kind of pretty. The have been usability issues, but that was quickly resolved.

    What actually made this interesting for me was that I was able to get a common PC user's perspective on this huge change. And what really shed some light was the fact that none of them really ever used the start menu in Windows 7 because what they needed was already pinned to the Taskbar. I was told that one didn't even bother with it. That struck me because I always clean up the start menu on every system I work so it's better to find programs and not search through folders. The design of the Start Screen eliminates.
    Would you mind telling us what those people actually use their computers for? I mean how many programs to they use and what for? Email? Web? maybe a word document? A game or two?

    Also the start screen does NOT eliminate the need for clean-up, it actually makes it MORE important than ever. How many programs have you tried installing? Install 10-20 programs or more (up to 50 or so over 2-3 year life time) that Metro screen will be the biggest ugly stick of a "start menu" imaginable without /constant/ trimming, just like people should do to the start menu. If you have to clean your start menu you will also have to clean your start screen. In fact I generally do very little start menu organizing but already I've had to (HAD TO) do a lot of start screen organising. It's not even a choice any more.

    It all comes down to choice. Power users vs lightweight users. Power users have no want or need for metro /at all/. Not one single person *I* personally know that has seen or used it (And all my friends are professionals or big enthusiasts) like it /at all/. At least not on their desktop. But yeah, I guess my mom might like it, but why should my mom's complete lack of Windows desktop skills dictate the primary interface to my workstation? It's just plain ridiculous.
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  3. #83


    Yes and what people don't understand is it took windows twenty years to break away from a kernel that was basically dos linux did that like 5 years after it started how many are old enough to. Know of the dos wars? Unix is the base of all and dos was the original which went three ways IBM, Micosoft and crapple. Microsoft and IBM fought over there versions of dos while unix had its own hybrid so to speak so microshaft takes crapples and makes a nondisclosed deal to ram it to ibm. So you have microshat that now has all three types of dos and they got sued for it IBM has been nowwhere to be seen from the start crapple runs off with their tail between their legs and unix has a surprise for them all which brought crapple to them so microshaft and IBM become only company's dos based kernel while unix,crapple and then linux said screw dos and here you have it twenty years later microshaft is starting to breakoff from dos and develop a better kernel and the result? A longhorn esq system that doesn't fail at all its effort
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  4. #84


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    Quote Originally Posted by killericarus View Post
    Yes and what people don't understand is it took windows twenty years to break away from a kernel that was basically dos linux did that like 5 years after it started how many are old enough to. Know of the dos wars? Unix is the base of all and dos was the original which went three ways IBM, Micosoft and crapple. Microsoft and IBM fought over there versions of dos while unix had its own hybrid so to speak so microshaft takes crapples and makes a nondisclosed deal to ram it to ibm. So you have microshat that now has all three types of dos and they got sued for it IBM has been nowwhere to be seen from the start crapple runs off with their tail between their legs and unix has a surprise for them all which brought crapple to them so microshaft and IBM become only company's dos based kernel while unix,crapple and then linux said screw dos and here you have it twenty years later microshaft is starting to breakoff from dos and develop a better kernel and the result? A longhorn esq system that doesn't fail at all its effort
    Everything you wrote there is wrong.

    The one thing I will point out though, if you are you going to use words like "microshaft" and "crapple" at least be fair and use the term "screwnix". Balance your biases
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    Quote Originally Posted by FSeal View Post
    But yeah, I guess my mom might like it

    Mommy will be buying millions of Personal Computers.

    Mommy knows best !
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  6. #86


    No fseal it is not wrong how long have you been in the industry? Are you even thirty years old? Do you still have momy wipe point is dude google dos wars go see how microsoft screwed over apple and ibm in 91-94 and for that matter if you knew anything you would know what started the term computer? And how dos was physically removed from microsoft branding because of a ten year battle between who owned dos
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  7. #87


    Well let me stop flaming before the thread is ruined but to be clear I received my A+ before comptia was forced all liscenses to be renewed yearly and I also received my MCSE off of 2003 advanced server when did you get yours hmmmmm?????
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  8. #88


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    Thank You for your contribution.
    You have talent.

    I never said FSeal is wrong.
    He is right,
    entitled to his point of view.

    I am 60 years old and glad MS screwed Apple and IBM.

    I could even explain to you how a Central Processing Unit is designed
    and how they function but not in the 8 forum.
    Microsoft is a legal and successful enterprise.

    Don't care who owns DOS.


    What did people do when Windows 95 came out?
    They bought new stuff,
    had some fun.
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  9. #89


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    Windows 7/8


    I think he was referring to me, actually.

    I am 50 years old and have been a career programmer on dos 2.0 onwards for nearly 30 years. I lived what "killericarus" was merely reading about.

    His views on the universe are obviously so colored with bias and vile that nearly everything that came out was twisted beyond all recognition and even rationality :/
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  10. #90


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    Hi,

    What did people do when Windows 95 came out?
    They learned how to use the new Operating System.
    Well at least in W95 there was something worthwhile to learn.
    W8 only makes you unlearn what you've learned since then. Besides that, the so called new OS isn't all that different from W7 except for all the useless stuff that comes with it plus all the stuff that has been needlessly removed or hidden deep under the hood.
    The emperor's new clothes?

    Cheers,
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