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What did people do when Windows 95 came out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Fair enough, that's probably why you hate Metro, the minimalist style, and that's why I like it, sort of reminds me of the old DOS interfaces.
    Nah, I think Metro in theory is a huge leap forward. In reality, maybe not so much. For example, without the start button you're going back, in a way, to the Program Manager concept before Windows 95, when there was crap all over the place. Then MS wised up and said - hey, let's put a Start Button down there. BOOM! Crap gone.

    I don't have any gripe against minimalist style in general, although the definition of "minimalist" can, ironically, cover a huge swath. For example: Start Button vs. Metro - which is more compact and tidy and no-nonsense and not in your face 24/7? I'd say Start Button wins the minimalist contest hands-down. But that's just me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Travis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Fair enough, that's probably why you hate Metro, the minimalist style, and that's why I like it, sort of reminds me of the old DOS interfaces.
    Nah, I think Metro in theory is a huge leap forward. In reality, maybe not so much. For example, without the start button you're going back, in a way, to the Program Manager concept before Windows 95, when there was crap all over the place. Then MS wised up and said - hey, let's put a Start Button down there. BOOM! Crap gone.

    I don't have any gripe against minimalist style in general, although the definition of "minimalist" can, ironically, cover a huge swath. For example: Start Button vs. Metro - which is more compact and tidy and no-nonsense and not in your face 24/7? I'd say Start Button wins the minimalist contest hands-down. But that's just me.
    I think we'll all learn to live with Metro, if not immediately sometime in the future, people have a habit of adapting. I think Microsoft has done well to clean out all the rubbish and left a lean mean OS, now it's just a matter of organising ourselves. I'm sure people will figure out ways around Metro if they don't need or want it.
    I'm looking forward to see the new batch of Windows 8 tablets, say what you will about Metro, but I think these tablets will be a boon for business.
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    Not my desktop.
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    Before (like in Windows 95) there was an option to hide the desktop icons,
    users had to do alot of "housework" to keep their desktop clean.

    Everyone did not have a clean and tidy desktop.

    There had to be endless hours of configuring
    to get that "start menu" just right !
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Before (like in Windows 95) there was an option to hide the desktop icons,
    users had to do alot of "housework" to keep their desktop clean.

    Everyone did not have a clean and tidy desktop.

    There had to be endless hours of configuring
    to get that "start menu" just right !
    And how does metro fix that? IMHO it actually makes it a LOT worse.

    Have you seen what happens to the metro screen after about 10 software installs??? It's far more messy than the start menu and will require even more clean-up to keep neat

    It's a step backwards on that account.
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    I am not trying to convince or sell the start screen.

    opinions vary,
    I do not believe it makes it worse.
    Editing the start screen is much simpler and faster than editing the legacy start menu.
    Click a tile is quicker and easier than searching thru 14 layers of start menu links.
    Pinning stuff to your taskbar is like having tiles on your taskbar...easy.

    Some folks on this forum have said they don't want to learn or know how to use 8.
    They just want their Windows 95 start menu or Windows 7 start menu and that's it!
    Basically, they want a new OS but it must be the same as the old OS!
    Yikes!

    ................
    Actually, ... some may not know this ...

    if you install mega programs,
    you can go to the start screen and right click 20 or 30 tiles at once,
    and unpin all of them with 1 click.
    You could unpin 100 tiles with 1 click.
    They would still all be there in the "all apps" area.

    Many would say it's a step backward but,

    ...the start screen could have every tile unpinned
    except the desktop tile.

    Nice and clean.
    Add a few apps.
    Add a few tiles.
    Pin a few to the taskbar.
    Nice and clean.

    What's wrong with that?
    again... not trying to convince.

    I have seen some comments by folks who find the start screen to be offensive.
    ...

    On this thread I am making the point that users of Windows 95 and up
    have always had to spend alot of time configuring stuff.
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    Hi,

    I think we'll all learn to live with Metro, if not immediately sometime in the future, people have a habit of adapting. I think Microsoft has done well to clean out all the rubbish and left a lean mean OS, now it's just a matter of organising ourselves. I'm sure people will figure out ways around Metro if they don't need or want it.
    I'm looking forward to see the new batch of Windows 8 tablets, say what you will about Metro, but I think these tablets will be a boon for business.
    Tablets aside, if you reread what's written then the obvious conclusion is that we're back to W95 or worse. IOW it's once again up to the customer to find workarounds to get rid of all the nuisances he/she does not want.

    I'm sure it's been said a zillion times but having to learn to live with something is the most undemocratic idea I've ever heard since enlightened despotism.....
    Fortunately we can also NOT buy the crap. I know I won't unless I'm offered some more options such as getting rid of everything Metro on my desktop.

    Cheers,
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    I'm amazed at you guys metro is nothing more than an advanced speed dial. Lol everyone bashed windows for not having the ability to be more user friendly well now it is and everyone is so used to it not being that they balk? So the only thing I see is there are a lot of permission issues they stepped up the game and made it possible to prevent a lot of user error wich is on thing linux will never ever have. Anyone ever use windows blinds or windows fx the tech in win 8 has been used on destops of xp and vist and 7 for quite a few years now its just properly integrated so it won't crash the shell and won't have to restart. Allmost all issues with windows have been dealing with restarts and driver installs or updates. And bsods now finally the majority of these issues will be none existant of cours new issues will arise like network security and permissions. We now have a shell that is almost bulletproof apps can crash without a bsod that took twenty years to make happen
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Some folks on this forum have said they don't want to learn or know how to use 8.
    They just want their Windows 95 start menu or Windows 7 start menu and that's it!
    Basically, they want a new OS but it must be the same as the old OS!
    Yikes!
    Who are these people? Maybe they're out there, I don't read every post. But the bulk of criticism does not come from people who don't want to learn - it is precisely because they've learned 8 that they don't like it. I don't want a new OS that's like the old OS. Why would anyone? It doesn't even make sense. Critics know your POV far better than you know theirs.

    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    again... not trying to convince.
    Yes, you are. Why can't you even admit that? Who cares if you're trying to advocate Metro? This is a forum dedicated to 8 - you would think there would be more dedicated 8 people out there.
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