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Time for a change

  1. #11


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    with Linux you actually have to logon as ROOT or use SUDO with a root password to get admin account.
    Depends on the version of Linux. Ubuntu/Kubuntu/etc.. do not do this. They work exactly like Windows Vista/7/8 work in this regard.

    Other versions you're right, but most newer versions these days use a setup similar to Windows and MacOS.

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  2. #12


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    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Organizing the tiles on the Metro screen can be a royal pain. The auto shuffle is frustrating and always having to use 2 vertical columns is a pain. It's 2 4 6 or 8 columns of tiles. Not being able to easily rename tiles is kind of lame too.
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  3. #13


    I am sure there is a more technical way, but I renamed all my long named metro Icons. I installed Classic shell, and renamed them there - very easy to do - they were automatically renamed in metro.
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  4. #14


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    I just went to the folders the actual shortcuts are in and renamed them there. After a little delay they change on the Metro Start screen to match.
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  5. #15


    Yes. That was another way. I found a little confliction there, between the two start menu folders. I Had to use both to change to rename some of the items. Nevertheless, I didn't see it as a mind shattering problem - pretty much the same way as you would rename in Windows 7/XP
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  6. #16


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    Yes, but in this day and age, when Microsoft has been doing this for so long, it should be a lot easier. Right click the tile, select rename....or something similar.
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  7. #17


    Agree with that!
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  8. #18


    Quote Originally Posted by cluberti View Post
    That's basically what UAC allows (amongst other things), although having a *second* admin account (in the event you cannot log onto one of the two accounts) is "best practice" for that reason.
    I'm afraid to say this cluberti, but if you are logged in with an adminstrators account, UAC pops up but does not need the user to input an administrators password; this basically renders the UAC useless. If you have a limited/standard account (which ALL users should have) it does ask for the admin password, which you and only you (or perhaps other trustworthy adults in your household) should have access to.
    That is the way that UAC should be used, however MS insist that the first USER has administrative rights, even though there is an inbuilt Administrator account created when Windows is installed. << crazy!!

    The Linux way is exactly as Jimbo45 states and is ultimately more secure from first install.
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  9. #19


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    Windows 7/8


    It's not all that crazy, it's an interim step to getting 600 million windows users used to the actual concept of user security without completely throwing it in their face all at once. It is /more/ secure than the first user account of any windows pre vista and is at least as secure as typing a password in for external attacks, though yes, less secure if you leave your workstation unlocked and some yahoo comes by to make trouble for you physically on your machine.

    Once people get used to the UAC and finally understand it's importance AND once program writers also understand that the user should not be running as admin to use their program, we can finally move all normal user accounts to non admin status completely.

    HOWEVER, there will then of course STILL be a "very first" user that will be the true admin that will have to be set up, then you need to set up your normal user account because there has to be SOME sort of admin account on install. (As linux does) That being part of the "too dificult to throw at new windows users all at once" issue for Vista/7 (and 8 now I guess)
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  10. #20


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    Setup a standard user account and try using it for a while. Then see how long it takes before you wish you had stayed with the default admin account.
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