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This PC and control panel are empty plus explorer issues

  1. #11


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    I used to get away with 20% free space on XP and that was often bogging. Try to offload data or install portable versions of programs someplace else and get down to 40% free space. Vista and later stuff is too big to run with 10%. My C: partition typically has over 70% free space. Defrags are much faster.

    When you get free space try a defrag with Auslogics last 5.x version. 6.0 made changes. The 5.x version no options defrag is fast so you can get it done in an hour or two. Once defragged I run it several times a week and it is done in less than 10 minutes.

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  2. #12


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    Windows 10 Pro 64bit


    Still at least run chkdsk on it too, use HD Tune to check the drive also. I always thought defragging too often was not good for the drive as it can put more wear on it.
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  3. #13


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    Quote Originally Posted by jds63 View Post
    Still at least run chkdsk on it too, use HD Tune to check the drive also. I always thought defragging too often was not good for the drive as it can put more wear on it.
    I agree. That is why I use a "light" defrag,, Auslogics,, rather than something that beats the hell out of the moving parts by shifting stuff around for 18 hours.

    As for too often, it probably has never been done since the PC came out of the box. When there is not enough free space then the message queues in Windows get longer and messages get dropped. That is why behavior is erratic. I noticed a big difference when I moved from 20% free space to 40%+. At 70% my defrags actually take like 5 minutes. Anyway, I don't want to get into a religious argument as that what defarg debates end up being.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesAhead View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jds63 View Post
    Still at least run chkdsk on it too, use HD Tune to check the drive also. I always thought defragging too often was not good for the drive as it can put more wear on it.
    I agree. That is why I use a "light" defrag,, Auslogics,, rather than something that beats the hell out of the moving parts by shifting stuff around for 18 hours.

    As for too often, it probably has never been done since the PC came out of the box. When there is not enough free space then the message queues in Windows get longer and messages get dropped. That is why behavior is erratic. I noticed a big difference when I moved from 20% free space to 40%+. At 70% my defrags actually take like 5 minutes. Anyway, I don't want to get into a religious argument as that what defarg debates end up being.
    Yes, well i have an SSD so no defrag for me, just maybe weekly trim. If never did a defrag then may need to always analyze it from Windows see if it needs to be. I know can help, not so often needed. Kind of confused now just received to do my Windows 10 upgrade it's ready only let me reschedule it for 2 day period, not cancel it for now.
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  5. #15


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    Windows 8.0 x64


    Looking at the disk management it may be the system is on an SSD. Still, with only 10% free space message queues could become extended. I don't know if SSD specific defrags are really beneficial as I haven't had an SSD as system disk to try them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesAhead View Post
    Looking at the disk management it may be the system is on an SSD. Still, with only 10% free space message queues could become extended. I don't know if SSD specific defrags are really beneficial as I haven't had an SSD as system disk to try them.
    No defrag with SSD just trim. Even when use Windows to do it, only be command to trim it. OP never listed in the specs the exact drive, but believe might of said HDD here.
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  7. #17


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    Quote Originally Posted by jds63 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MilesAhead View Post
    Looking at the disk management it may be the system is on an SSD. Still, with only 10% free space message queues could become extended. I don't know if SSD specific defrags are really beneficial as I haven't had an SSD as system disk to try them.
    No defrag with SSD just trim. Even when use Windows to do it, only be command to trim it. OP never listed in the specs the exact drive, but believe might of said HDD here.
    Well, some of the defraggers I see have an "SSD mode." Whatever that means. Perhaps it just flickers the disk sectors in the gui display. Kind of like a placebo effect?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesAhead View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jds63 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MilesAhead View Post
    Looking at the disk management it may be the system is on an SSD. Still, with only 10% free space message queues could become extended. I don't know if SSD specific defrags are really beneficial as I haven't had an SSD as system disk to try them.
    No defrag with SSD just trim. Even when use Windows to do it, only be command to trim it. OP never listed in the specs the exact drive, but believe might of said HDD here.
    Well, some of the defraggers I see have an "SSD mode." Whatever that means. Perhaps it just flickers the disk sectors in the gui display. Kind of like a placebo effect?
    Do not know, just recall asking about this when i first bought a SSD, most said do not defrag or will not defrag a SSD. Maybe those softwares are trimming SSD and defragging the HDD, just a term.
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