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Touch is NOT the "near" future of computing. Keyboard & mouse is.

  1. #51


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    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    You are probably right Legacy7955 that it is not "near"...
    I think most posters agree with you.

    ............. I spilled coffee on my wireless and now the keys stick.
    The above technology is in its infancy.
    Needing tactile feedback is a habit.
    (seems to me, a light tap on a surface is easier than thumping on a spring)

    I am building a silent PC, no fans at all.
    I would like a keyboard that is not louder than the PC.
    I would also like a touch mouse that uses a smooth surface
    - .... maybe Plexiglas (no springs or clicks).

    NOT a fan of Apple products (too expensive).

    The "old ways" will still be here for many, many, many years.
    Touch is NOT the "near" future of computing.
    I can promise you that your preference is in the distinct minority, when it comes to intense data entry.

    As for the human "need" for tactile feedback being a "habit", call it whatever you want it evolved over tens of thousands of years, and it made man successful.

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    yes... true... I am in the minority ...
    ...we are talking about keyboards ... ok
    it's ergonomics ...
    a light touch is easier than pressing a spring

    I think it would be a new experience.

    Touch screens might also have their place.
    NOT for data entry.
    Good to launch something.

    I am used to being out of step with the mainstream.
    Last edited by mdmd; 10 Jun 2012 at 01:27.
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  3. #53


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    The office is evolving.

    In an office building...
    For decades, rows and rows,
    and hundreds and hundreds of women
    would sit at their typewriter station all day
    pounding on their hammer and ink machines.

    pounding and pounding all day long
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    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Hi there
    texting a few words or being a "Twat" on twitter is one thing but try entering complex data on a spreadsheet with a mobile phone - even something with a screen the size of an Iphone.

    What about very large monitors where you are seated or should be much more than arms length away.

    The keyboard won't go away any time soon nor will the mouse. The only thing that came close to eliminating the mouse strangely enough was on the old IBM (before LENOVO took them over) Thinkpad range of laptops. They had what looked like a little awkward to use red pointer embedded on to the keyboard. - This in fact worked very well and was far superior to any of those track / touchpads -- I always disable those on my laptops.

    Also when people are texting they are typing a few sentences and waiting for responses.

    Most people I'm sure would have a real problem writing a 3,000 word article (possibly with images and diagrams too) , proof reading it and sending it off for publication all via a mobile phone's touch screen.

    Some people might have skinny fingers which would allow them to do this but that's a rarity.

    The real question is in 50 years or whatever will we actually NEED computers anymore. I can't say as who knows what inventions are likely to spill out in that period.

    cheers
    jimbo
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    Texting has nothing to do with computer data entry.

    Haven't you ever heard of a typewriter?
    Where are they?

    Mobile Phones have nothing to do with computer data entry.

    In fact, touch is used by Industry everywhere:
    manufacturing, banks, security, etc...

    Who said anything about using monitors for data entry?

    Touch is here, emotion will not deny evolution.
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  6. #56


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Texting has nothing to do with computer data entry.

    Haven't you ever heard of a typewriter?
    Where are they?

    Mobile Phones have nothing to do with computer data entry.

    In fact, touch is used by Industry everywhere:
    manufacturing, banks, security, etc...

    Who said anything about using monitors for data entry?

    Touch is here, emotion will not deny evolution.

    People seem to want data entry on a tablet in some cases.

    If you are also saying "Data entry" not wanted on a touch screen monitor then you are demolishing your own argument. Unless data entry is done by voice you will have to have some type of keyboard data entry system.

    As many people have said a totally touch type based OS isn't appropriate in a workplace.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    I am not presenting a point of view or opinion.
    Secretarial and technical office data entry on a tablet ?

    I have no opinion.
    I have no argument.

    I was referring to the full size desktop touch keyboard and mouse as in the above pics,
    a few posts back,
    which, by the way, are not available.
    Full size desktop touch keyboards have yet to be invented.
    NON mechanical hard surface keyboards.

    I don't care.
    I have no opinion for touch in the "office".
    I am just stating that it is here and evolving.
    Touch is widely used in industry.

    As far as Windows 8 is concerned,
    it is an evolved hybrid system that many dislike.
    Last edited by mdmd; 10 Jun 2012 at 10:03.
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    Quote Originally Posted by legacy7955 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    That's actually pretty cool, I'm not going to lie.
    Yeah it looks cool, like Apple cool. Is it a better way to type? No.

    You see cokey, humans like, no NEED tactile analog feedback to be efficient and most importantly connected to the device they are using, whether a keyboard, or something else.

    I gotta tell you touch mania reminds me of the 3D TV debacle. Is it cool, sure, do you NEED it? Nope, is it more expensive? Yep. Is it worth it, not many buyers seem to think so. \

    But my god the "industry" pushed that over the past 5 years. But it still didn't work to convince buyers.
    I think I might be able to type pretty fast on that....

    But 3DTV technology is far too limited and expensive to be decent. Holograms, that's where it is.
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    nice one crawfish

    BSOD Windows 27


    I like it!

    think that clip of data was pulled
    from the episode when his emotion chip was malfunctioning
    Last edited by mdmd; 10 Jun 2012 at 17:29.
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