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Touch is NOT the "near" future of computing. Keyboard & mouse is.

  1. #31


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    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Again, no. Ms's push to get into the smartphone & tablet market will ultimately fail, as Apple & Android will continue to dominate, despite ms's best effort. In the meantime, they will have alienated their core, most of whom despise the metro nonsense. Mark my words, win9 will see ms retreat at least insofar as offering a choice, a real choice between metroturd and desktop.

    I agree completely with this. People will see how bad Windows HE is on the desktop/laptop, and that will make them avoid Windows mobile devices even more than they do now. There will of course be a spike when all this comes out due to Microsoft spending a fortune to promote it, but it won't last. Word of mouth will be bad, and they won't penetrate much beyond the fanboy base. Metro and its apps are shockingly horrible.
    Are you guys for real, I'll bet you said the same thing about the Automobile, McDonalds and PC's.
    You're the fanboy base, of course.

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  2. #32


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    Again, no. Ms's push to get into the smartphone & tablet market will ultimately fail, as Apple & Android will continue to dominate, despite ms's best effort. In the meantime, they will have alienated their core, most of whom despise the metro nonsense. Mark my words, win9 will see ms retreat at least insofar as offering a choice, a real choice between metroturd and desktop.

    I think the point crawfish is trying to make is that many loyal MS customers would have gladly bought up WindowsPhone, and WinTablets, but because MS is sticking it to us (loyalists) we'll end up defecting, which I have to say if MS refuses to change the situation with metro options in Windows 8, I too will look elsewhere (not crApple) of course, but not MS either.
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  3. #33


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    Quote Originally Posted by legacy7955 View Post
    Again, no. Ms's push to get into the smartphone & tablet market will ultimately fail, as Apple & Android will continue to dominate, despite ms's best effort. In the meantime, they will have alienated their core, most of whom despise the metro nonsense. Mark my words, win9 will see ms retreat at least insofar as offering a choice, a real choice between metroturd and desktop.

    I think the point crawfish is trying to make is that many loyal MS customers would have gladly bought up WindowsPhone, and WinTablets, but because MS is sticking it to us (loyalists) we'll end up defecting, which I have to say if MS refuses to change the situation with metro options in Windows 8, I too will look elsewhere (not crApple) of course, but not MS either.
    What are you going with Meego
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  4. #34


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    Server 2012 / 8.0


    Silly as it sounds,
    and it may be silly, Oh, Yes...
    how many keyboards and mice are used in Star Trek?

    Oh, Oh,...
    Opinions vary...
    We move forward...

    I happen to like
    and use all of the following and look forward to more!

    FUN...Interesting...Useful!
    Daily Motion
    Auto Trader
    Free Books
    The LA Times
    The Chicago Tribune
    Weather
    I Heart Radio
    Tom's Hardware
    Nature Space
    Slap Dash Podcasts
    Music Maker Jam
    Slacker Radio
    News Republic
    Yellow Pages
    Metro Internet Explorer
    The Big Picture

    I agree with Legacy, keyboards and mice are necessary for now.
    Especially for Data Processors, Office people, Technicians, everyone using a PC desktop.
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  5. #35


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    Quote Originally Posted by legacy7955 View Post
    I think the point crawfish is trying to make is that many loyal MS customers would have gladly bought up WindowsPhone, and WinTablets, but because MS is sticking it to us (loyalists) we'll end up defecting, which I have to say if MS refuses to change the situation with metro options in Windows 8, I too will look elsewhere (not crApple) of course, but not MS either.
    That's not the point I'm trying to make at all. Probably most of the true "loyalists" have already bought Windows Phones. I'm talking about everyone who hasn't but might consider it. They already have iPhones and Android phones, and they will need some motivation to switch. Windows HE ain't gonna be it, and sadly that's the whole reason for its existence. It's going to be some number of wasted years for Microsoft and other companies who follow them down this pointless path. BTW, I agree with you on many things, but not the Apple bashing. I wrote a long post detailing my transition from Zune to iPod Touch and why Microsoft has become irrelevant to me for all multimedia except for CableCARD DVR in Media Center where it's the only game in town, and as someone who hadn't owned an Apple product for almost 20 years, I simply love the thing and even bought an Apple TV to use as an audio-only Airplay bridge to my bedroom stereo. This is all just great, great stuff, and it continues to get better.
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  6. #36


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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post



    Mass market consumers don't buy an o/s, they buy a device.

    Win8 just happens to be on them .
    And that's the point for the push.
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  7. #37


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Silly as it sounds,
    and it may be silly, Oh, Yes...
    how many keyboards and mice are used in Star Trek?

    Oh, Oh,...
    Opinions vary...
    We move forward...

    I happen to like
    and use all of the following and look forward to more!

    FUN...Interesting...Useful!
    Daily Motion
    Auto Trader
    Free Books
    The LA Times
    The Chicago Tribune
    Weather
    I Heart Radio
    Tom's Hardware
    Nature Space
    Slap Dash Podcasts
    Music Maker Jam
    Slacker Radio
    News Republic
    Yellow Pages
    Metro Internet Explorer
    The Big Picture

    I agree with Legacy, keyboards and mice are necessary for now.
    Especially for Data Processors, Office people, Technicians, everyone using a PC desktop.
    And how many mice were used in Minority Report and how many Kinect sensors?
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  8. #38


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by crawfish View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by legacy7955 View Post
    I think the point crawfish is trying to make is that many loyal MS customers would have gladly bought up WindowsPhone, and WinTablets, but because MS is sticking it to us (loyalists) we'll end up defecting, which I have to say if MS refuses to change the situation with metro options in Windows 8, I too will look elsewhere (not crApple) of course, but not MS either.
    That's not the point I'm trying to make at all. Probably most of the true "loyalists" have already bought Windows Phones. I'm talking about everyone who hasn't but might consider it. They already have iPhones and Android phones, and they will need some motivation to switch. Windows HE ain't gonna be it, and sadly that's the whole reason for its existence. It's going to be some number of wasted years for Microsoft and other companies who follow them down this pointless path. BTW, I agree with you on many things, but not the Apple bashing. I wrote a long post detailing my transition from Zune to iPod Touch and why Microsoft has become irrelevant to me for all multimedia except for CableCARD DVR in Media Center where it's the only game in town, and as someone who hadn't owned an Apple product for almost 20 years, I simply love the thing and even bought an Apple TV to use as an audio-only Airplay bridge to my bedroom stereo. This is all just great, great stuff, and it continues to get better.
    I think it's interesting how brand switches happen. I used to be for apple, I had an itouch, wanted to get an iphone, used and installed iTunes even if the needed didn't exist. I always used and installed safari and ignored the Microsoft alternatives. I used Windows as my OS since forever.

    But until I discovered the Windows Phone and the concept of it and how so different it was, I was hooked. I started using the Zune software and that's when I ditched apple. Realizing I was part of their grand scheme of a capitalistic-communist regime of "can't live with it, can't live without" I forever despise them....
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  9. #39


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    Server 2012 / 8.0


    Have you seen from the taskbar of Windows 8,
    right click and select toolbars,
    TOUCH KEYBOARD,
    and there it is!
    Last edited by mdmd; 07 Jun 2012 at 00:25.
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  10. #40


    Zune was interesting and overall I found the zune HD pretty fun and new compared to the other players however their was definitely bads to the software on the player as well as on the computer. Also there really was no marketing for either the original players or the zune HD. Microsoft desperately needs help in this department. They finally had a pretty good design wise product but no one knew about it. I learned about the zune but I never was interested in it because there were no commercials I learned about the Zune HD because I went to a website. I don't like how they are rebranding it though. Xbox Music sounds stupid, zune has a much better ring to it. Also the logo doesn't really fit music on top of that the software/app looks horrid. Besides they should be marketing ALL their stuff under one place which is the store/marketplace. Making the store and then a separate center for music, xbox games and videos will just make things more confusing. Overall I would prefer they come up with another player and update the software and make it have the store and brand the software something else that all downloadables can fall under. But I guess that won't be happening. I don't want to use a windows phone for music plus there I like the bold text that the Zune HD uses the phone keeps using that same light weight EVERYWHERE. The zune hd was a nice touch device that was different (kind of) and felt like it was in the future. That was a good touch device. First they kill off the player now they make the brand sound goofy. Sigh.
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