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The Start Menu is Back W8 RP (at least 99.999%) !!!

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    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10

    The Start Menu is Back W8 RP (at least 99.999%) !!!


    Hi there
    a few have been looking at various ways to get the Start menu back

    I'm surprised more people haven't mentioned "Classic Shell" -- menu is customisable as well

    FREE from here

    Welcome to Classic Shell

    this it what it looks like on my system (note I've taken the standard option but you can customize it after installation via settings==>classic shell.

    (You still have to click desktop after bootup to get to the desktop but that's hardly a pain given the faster boot time anyway).

    Bye Bye those 97 zillion million tiles !!.

    cheers
    jimbo
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails menu.png  

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    Denmark
    Posts : 224
    Windows 8.1 64bit Pro


    Fantastic .

    I now use Windows 7 Aero skin, and the START button is as much "Windows 7" as I want it to be.

    Thank you very much. Maybe some day somebody will find the solution to boot direct to desktop
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    win 7 home premium 64 bit


    I think classic shell is a great tool...BUT my question is why should I have to pay for my shiny new OS and then have to hack at the core code to get back functions that should have been allowed as an option by MS in the first place?

    I also have concerns about issues that might crop up with windows updates and security features as well.
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    Windows 8 Pro/Windows 8 Pro/Windows 7 64 Bit64Bit/Windows XP


    Quote Originally Posted by legacy7955 View Post
    I think classic shell is a great tool...BUT my question is why should I have to pay for my shiny new OS and then have to hack at the core code to get back functions that should have been allowed as an option by MS in the first place?

    I also have concerns about issues that might crop up with windows updates and security features as well.
    What is it with you man, I believe if Microsoft just changed the mouse pointer in Windows 7 you'd have something to say about it. Why don't you just stick with Windows 7 until people get Windows 8 to work the way you want or if not just stick with Windows 7. You don't have to pay for Windows 8, no one is forcing you, Windows 7 will be around for a long time.
    I've still got Laptops running XP and even a HDD with XP on my main PC, when Windows 8 comes out, I'll buy it, but I'll still have a HDD with Windows 7 on it.
    Whenever I buy a new OS I always keep an older one that I'm used to with all my Apps on it and just gradually make the transition by swapping HDD's back and forth, all my work gets put onto a NAS so I don't lose anything.
    Just stay cool man, you're getting all worked up over nothing.
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    Windows 7 & Windows 8 RP


    I wonder will this still work when Microsoft releases the final version?' I've read reports that Microsoft was furiously ripping out legacy codes to prevent third party start menu apps. I suppose we'll see.

    That said, I personally like the Metro. It is different and took some getting use to, but once I messed around with it, it isn't as bad as I thought.
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    Posts : 740
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by legacy7955 View Post
    I think classic shell is a great tool...BUT my question is why should I have to pay for my shiny new OS and then have to hack at the core code to get back functions that should have been allowed as an option by MS in the first place?

    I also have concerns about issues that might crop up with windows updates and security features as well.
    What is it with you man, I believe if Microsoft just changed the mouse pointer in Windows 7 you'd have something to say about it. Why don't you just stick with Windows 7 until people get Windows 8 to work the way you want or if not just stick with Windows 7. You don't have to pay for Windows 8, no one is forcing you, Windows 7 will be around for a long time.
    I've still got Laptops running XP and even a HDD with XP on my main PC, when Windows 8 comes out, I'll buy it, but I'll still have a HDD with Windows 7 on it.
    Whenever I buy a new OS I always keep an older one that I'm used to with all my Apps on it and just gradually make the transition by swapping HDD's back and forth, all my work gets put onto a NAS so I don't lose anything.
    Just stay cool man, you're getting all worked up over nothing.
    He does have a valid point. Not everyone wants to use a third party application that significantly alters the OS. Classic Shell is relying on undocumented and obsolete OS components, and it is very possible for Microsoft to push out an update that changes things enough to cause incompatibilities severe enough to irreversibly damage the system.

    Also: ViStart > Classic Shell.
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    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0


    Sorry,
    With Respect,
    I must respond.

    The Classic Shell is an application that is easily uninstalled.
    It cannot alter the Operating System.

    To end the application,
    all you need do is select to exit the program.

    This will not affect the Operating System.
    It is like closing notepad.

    Classic Shell will save any changes you made if you tell it to...
    ... to a configuration file.

    Otherwise, you can simply turn it off or on at will.
    It does not rely on undocumented or obsolete OS components.
    It simply reads the menu structures built by the Operating System.
    It cannot cause incompatibilities.
    It cannot damage the system.

    I apologize if this seems rude.
    I hope this helps.
    thanks
    Last edited by mdmd; 04 Jun 2012 at 21:04.
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    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    It has been mentioned a lot on this forum and others -because so many people want a start menu - not a start screen.

    In addition, there is an entire thread by the developer.

    Classic Shell for Windows 8





    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there
    a few have been looking at various ways to get the Start menu back

    I'm surprised more people haven't mentioned "Classic Shell" -- menu is customisable as well

    FREE from here

    Welcome to Classic Shell

    this it what it looks like on my system (note I've taken the standard option but you can customize it after installation via settings==>classic shell.

    (You still have to click desktop after bootup to get to the desktop but that's hardly a pain given the faster boot time anyway).

    Bye Bye those 97 zillion million tiles !!.

    cheers
    jimbo
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    Posts : 740
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Sorry,
    With Respect,
    I must respond.

    The Classic Shell is an application that is easily uninstalled.
    It cannot alter the Operating System.

    To end the application,
    all you need do is select to exit the program.

    This will not affect the Operating System.
    It is like closing notepad.

    Classic Shell will save any changes you made if you tell it to...
    ... to a configuration file.

    Otherwise, you can simply turn it off or on at will.
    It does not rely on undocumented or obsolete OS components.
    It simply reads the menu structures built by the Operating System.
    It cannot cause incompatibilities.
    It cannot damage the system.

    I apologize if this seems rude.
    I hope this helps.
    thanks
    I'll admit I haven't really understood what Classic Shell is, but calling it a shell is saying that it's a program that replaces or alters the Windows Shell, or the entire window environment. That is not something that a standard application is capable of. Looking at it closer, Classic Start does seem to operate as a normal application, and the others are implemented as plugins (turns out WE supports plugins. huh.) it might be fine, but I'm still leery of having third-party programs ****ing up my filesystem.

    And while I'm on this etymology blitz: The title is a bit misleading. There have been plenty of threads about start menu alternatives to make this thread about "just another alternative." With this thread coinciding with the Release Preview, "The Start Menu is Back W8 RP (at least 99.999%) !!!" is pretty much saying that the official Microsoft-built start menu has been placed back into Windows 8 somehow (possibly by a registry hack)
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    Posts : 2
    win8


    Looks like a crappy version of ViStart

    Windows start menu skin and start menu button, Aero Black v2

    I themed that to match my Metro Theme.

    Click image for larger version
    Last edited by edgex; 04 Jun 2012 at 23:10.
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