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    On my way home today - there was a guy and girl sitting opposite me.

    They are still students - so a couple of years younger than me.

    Here's the interesting bit:

    The girl put her iphone in her bag and handed the guy a nintendo.

    She then got out a Kindle. She also had an ipad with her.

    I asked if they have any other computing devices.

    Yes - the girl has a Macbook.

    The guy has a laptop and a desktop - both running windows 7.

    I asked if they use them.

    Yes, all the time - these are only for a bit of fun when we are travelling.

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  2. #72


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    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    I agree 100% with you, Vertex, in your statement "The Windows 7 Start Menu and Button should be there and a separate button for the Metro should exist and that there should be a choice which interface is default at startup". Although I believe MS developed 8 for application among many devices, your solution seems the best I've heard yet for business application.

    I've been saying this all along. The user should have a choice of WHICH DEFAULT UI they want at boot so that you don't have to keep switching from Metro back to the desktop.

    One "click and stick" UI choice at initial OS set up.

    Of course if you want to change this also make that option available as well. CHOICE!
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  3. #73


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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    Lets face it folks, when Windows 8 comes out there will be a large number of Apps ready to go. Then there will be a huge number of developers working like crazy to jump on the bandwagon of the Worlds most popular OS.
    Maybe? But, how much will they cost? And will they be any good? Right now the App store is pretty bare and a lot of the so called free apps seem to be limited function versions of something the author would like to pay for. Not everybody is as enthused as you and Coke Robot are about Windows 8.
    Key words, RIGHT NOW. Give it a year and that can easily change. Heck, six months even..... The point is that Windows 8 is at an early stage to fully judge it.
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  4. #74


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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    On my way home today - there was a guy and girl sitting opposite me.

    They are still students - so a couple of years younger than me.

    Here's the interesting bit:

    The girl put her iphone in her bag and handed the guy a nintendo.

    She then got out a Kindle. She also had an ipad with her.

    I asked if they have any other computing devices.

    Yes - the girl has a Macbook.

    The guy has a laptop and a desktop - both running windows 7.

    I asked if they use them.

    Yes, all the time - these are only for a bit of fun when we are travelling.
    Wow.....
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  5. #75


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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    I think arguing about the future acceptance of Windows 8 is pretty useless. Nobody knows. I am sure it will be popular with tablets but on the PC it will probably have a hard time.

    The unfortunate situation is that starting next year, Windows 8 will be the default OEM installation on new PCs. That may even slow down PC sales because a lot of people may not want it on a PC.
    Desktop sales are already slowing down...
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  6. #76


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    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    The problem with looking at Windows forums is that you get a one sided look at whats really going on. You've only got to look at what people on here are saying about touch and keyboards and mice, completely off the mark. The real world is already leaving a lot of these things behind, the real world has already changed and I'm sure Microsoft knows this.
    Most people on here can't even see beyond the PC, when as sure as night follows day, traditional PC's are going the way of the horse and cart. When you hang around tech forums, not Windows forums, you get a much better idea of what's going on.
    The problem with tech forums is they push tech.
    When you hang around offices and vocational campuses, people are using desktops to do work (Linux, Mac and Windows).

    Phones and tablets are meant for frivolous consumer activities (e.g Facebook, listening to music, reading e-books, watching video, etc.).
    Whilst most of the whippersnappers (at my TAFE) have phones, they also have monster gaming rigs.

    You can't do any "real" work on a touch screen phone/tablet (apart from checklists and telemarketing).
    How long would it take you to create a 100 MB database on a phone?
    How many virtual servers can you run on a tablet?

    OMG, the soul-destroying horror of trying to type up a 50 page report on a phone.
    I could probably type 50 pages on my Windows Phone.

    This may be true, but not for very long as the touch UI is developed. Even then, there will be Office 15 coming down the pipeline soon and that has been made for touch a bit too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post

    OMG, the soul-destroying horror of trying to type up a 50 page report on a phone.
    I could probably type 50 pages on my Windows Phone.

    This may be true, but not for very long as the touch UI is developed. Even then, there will be Office 15 coming down the pipeline soon and that has been made for touch a bit too.[/QUOTE]


    You must have been one of the 2 people out of tens of thousands that would claim that, (not that I believe even YOU would use a touch screen to input intensive data) obviously the marketing consultants spoke to two of you and decided "**** it!" we'll go with a touch focused system for all data entry. Absolute insanity.

    The desktop will be around for a loooooong long time, as will the lap top, and until some paradigm shift occurs with the human body (hands and fingers) will not suffice for more than short amounts of input on a greasy touch screen.


    @cokey: A question....are you in ANY way shape or form connected with Microsoft, their marketing agency, or related entitles? Just curious.
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  8. #78


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    Yes, an interesting encounter this afternoon.

    They use their larger devices pretty much all the time - they only use the portables for a bit of fun when they are traveling.

    There is nothing surprising about that bit.

    What is unusual is the amount of tech she had in her handbag, and the number of devices they have between them.


    It gets better, or perhaps worse:

    I asked the guy if he knew about Windows 8.

    He said he hadn't tried it, but had heard mentioned at university it was not very good.

    "Dumbed down" was the expression he used

    I explained if he wanted to try it - it may be better on a tablet.

    Well, he said - I am just about to buy an ipad ( he liked his girlfriend's so much ).


    Where do students get the money for all these gadgets?
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  9. #79


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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Yes, an interesting encounter this afternoon.

    They use their larger devices pretty much all the time - they only use the portables for a bit of fun when they are traveling.

    There is nothing surprising about that bit.

    What is unusual is the amount of tech she had in her handbag, and the number of devices they have between them.


    It gets better, or perhaps worse:

    I asked the guy if he knew about Windows 8.

    He said he hadn't tried it, but had heard mentioned at university it was not very good.

    "Dumbed down" was the expression he used

    I explained if he wanted to try it - it may be better on a tablet.

    Well, he said - I am just about to buy an ipad ( he liked his girlfriend's so much ).


    Where do students get the money from for all these gadgets?
    My LORD that is a LOT! And I think having a phone, laptop, and a desktop is much! See, in a Windows world, that would be ALL you need! I find it's funny how EVERY new version of Windows, there is the dumbed down criticism. I've been told that Windows 7 was too dumbed down. I've heard vista be called a little dumbed down and xp's interface looks very dumbed down. Really?

    But that is a good question though, where do they get the money for that? That's like at least, a few thousand dollars!
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    Quote Originally Posted by legacy7955 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post

    OMG, the soul-destroying horror of trying to type up a 50 page report on a phone.
    I could probably type 50 pages on my Windows Phone.

    This may be true, but not for very long as the touch UI is developed. Even then, there will be Office 15 coming down the pipeline soon and that has been made for touch a bit too.

    You must have been one of the 2 people out of tens of thousands that would claim that, (not that I believe even YOU would use a touch screen to input intensive data) obviously the marketing consultants spoke to two of you and decided "**** it!" we'll go with a touch focused system for all data entry. Absolute insanity.

    The desktop will be around for a loooooong long time, as will the lap top, and until some paradigm shift occurs with the human body (hands and fingers) will not suffice for more than short amounts of input on a greasy touch screen.


    @cokey: A question....are you in ANY way shape or form connected with Microsoft, their marketing agency, or related entitles? Just curious. [/QUOTE]

    One can do large data inputs if one has the interface to do such. Windows 7 was built for touch as a decent input, and I bet Office 15 will great for touch. If I must say about said greasy touch screen, wash your hands, that's first. Secondly, touch screens get cleaned often and therefore, have probably less infectious germs than a keyboard or a mouse. Do you clean them often? If not, half and half of rubbing alcohol and preferably distilled water will do the trick and might show some serious filth. Gross.

    And to answer your question, no, I am not. I wish though, I could always use some extra cash! I've been following the developments of Windows 8, Office 15, Windows Phone 7 and 8 like a crack addict. These be some exciting times we live in!
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