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Windows 8 is a few steps backwards

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    Windows 8 is a few steps backwards


    Windows 7 is great. Windows 8 is an appalling OS with virtually no thought given to the millions of desktop PC users. When support for W7 expires I will be buying a Mac.

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    Windows 8 Pro/Windows 8 Pro/Windows 7 64 Bit64Bit/Windows XP


    Quote Originally Posted by Corringdon View Post
    Windows 7 is great. Windows 8 is an appalling OS with virtually no thought given to the millions of desktop PC users. When support for W7 expires I will be buying a Mac.
    Its funny, I've been hearing that for years, every time there's the slightest problem with MS, you hear the same thing, "I'll be buying a Mac", yet here we are 50 years later and Mac still only has 5% of the market.
    I think people jump on one end and off the other.
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    It's mostly constantly rebounding hearsay. Vista was a marked victim of it.
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    Windows 7/8


    I dunno... this time it may happen. Apple may just now be rethinking abandoining their desktop line in wake of the Windows 8 user responses :/
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    Windows 8 Enterprise 64-bit (7 Ult, Vista & XP in V-Box)


    Apple?

    Not likely!!

    But I do have several variants of Linux available to me right here and now.

    No, I'll be staying with Win 7 on this machine, which has the Win 8 64-bit CP in VirtualBox.

    The 32-bit CP, which is running on the old laptop will probably also remain there.

    But there's nothing to make me want Win 8 as my main OS, and many reasons for me not to.
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    Hi there
    Too many probs with this version (Release preview). Consumer preview was OK

    This version --just a few of the probs I've had with it.

    1) TOO much stupid security -- can't access my OWN disks without going through Olympic size rings to undo the security -- I've got around 12 disks connected to the machine with zillions of folders / sub folders and files -- security gives errors when trying to change access rights at root (Volume) level.

    2) Power options can't switch off sleep to NEVER --no good when running Virtual Servers 24 / 7 or even want your on machine to be left on 24 /7 for remote access.

    3) Control Panel doesn't give you the option any more of displaying everything as Icons / small icons but only the "Idiot" view in categories. So if you want something you have to go into SEARCH and if you don't know what the name is --tough. The old system MUCH better especially if you regularly change things.

    4) W8 install left a whole load of junk .TMP files all over the system --size 0 bytes but can't get rid of them.

    5) If you do a test and install OVER W8 consumer preview you'll find (again due to the stupid security) that you CAN'T delete WINDOWS.OLD which is quite a large file - especially if you are considering using SSD's..

    6) Virtual Machines wouldn't run -- software OK (VMware server and HYPER) but access rights on VM's totally hosed up.

    7) Multi-Media apps couldn't get going properly --combination of access rights (again !!) and the Internet browser disabling stuff that stops some websites displaying input forms -- so I couldn't set things like start up parameters etc for my media server ---- HOPELESS. !!!

    I've mentioned in other posts that although I was very keen on W8 this has been my WORST ever user experience after installing an OS since as far back as Windows 3.11

    I've also installed a lot of Linux distros --and while you EXPECT trouble (usually) with Linux I rarely ever got not being able to access data type of problems.

    If this is progress -- I'm going back to using Pigeon Carriers for mail and the Abacus for other work.

    Cheers
    jimbo

    I booted up an old XP Bartpe system from a USB to get rid of it --shouldn't have to do that. !!

    The INSTALL looked fine -- and quick and the desktop has improved --but SURELY MS you don't design systems that lock HOME users out of their own DATA. !!!

    The only GOOD thing about this version is that it takes around 10 mins to install on a decent system so it IS possible to try it a few times -- but after 3 goes with unsatisfactory results I'll hand over to other people to see if they have better luck.

    BTW my remarks apply to a desktop version with lots of Disks etc.

    You might find on a laptop the security problem won't exist (usually only 1 HDD). The never sleep option might not also be important either.

    Seems to me that this version really is more suitable to tablets or smart phones than a proper "Work horse" of a decent desktop computer.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    Interesting responses. My 'I'll buy a Mac' comment was, perhaps, a desperate attempt to make Microsoft see some reason. I couldn't afford to replace my programmes with Mac equivalents even if they were available. W8 is a crap OS though.
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    Interesting and very relevant comments, Jimbo 45.
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    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corringdon View Post
    Interesting responses. My 'I'll buy a Mac' comment was, perhaps, a desperate attempt to make Microsoft see some reason. I couldn't afford to replace my programmes with Mac equivalents even if they were available. W8 is a crap OS though.
    Hi there
    Actually I thought Consumer Preview was a nice step in the right direction
    Somebody at MS though rather than fix what was wrong with the Consumer Preview went totally Bonkers in trying to make the wretched thing too Idiot Proof and tried (and succeeded) in protecting the system so much from the users that it's almost unuseable without a HUGE amount of tweaking which I haven't got the patience or inclination to do any more


    I simply re-installed my "Windows to Go" partition over the W8 Release preview -- after a few "Device settings" --It's a different machine so the Windows to go finds a couple of devices -- and everything is back to normal again. 15 mins to restore !!.

    Booted up the windows to go from my external USB -- wiped all the junk of the local C HDD and re-installed the W8 windows to go Consumer preview image again.

    Incidentally the Virtual machines on the RELEASE PREVIEW (not CP) also have mega problems when REMOTE users access them -- again the wretched security. It was at that point I finally said ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

    I've got til January to continue with Consumer Preview -- I'll review the situation from time to time -- but Linux again --especially the later releases of SUSE are looking very attractive again now device support is so much better there too. I van keep Office / a few other apps on an XP Virtual machine for as long as I want too.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    Control panel has option of different views.
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