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How can I boot directly to desktop & more...??

  1. #11


    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0


    My proposal to use hibernation as a bypass
    of the metro is not suitable for most users.
    Last edited by mdmd; 11 Jul 2012 at 11:04.

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  2. #12


    Posts : 902
    Win8.1 Pro, Desktop Mode


    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Rickkins, could I ask, do you know what hibernation is?

    Hibernation turns your computer off completely.
    The OS takes a snapshot of your memory then turns the computer off.

    It is not sleep mode.
    Oops...I may have been mistaking the two. I'll give your suggestion a try then.

    Thanks.
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  3. #13


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    Interesting, mine doesn't do that.
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  4. #14


    Posts : 454
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by Rickkins View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Rickkins, could I ask, do you know what hibernation is?

    Hibernation turns your computer off completely.
    The OS takes a snapshot of your memory then turns the computer off.

    It is not sleep mode.
    Oops...I may have been mistaking the two. I'll give your suggestion a try then.

    Thanks.
    The one thing hibernation is not is "booting"; see thread title for relevance. Moreover, it's not a good idea to use hibernation often with SSD boot drives due to the massive amount of writing each hibernation incurs. If you're using hybrid sleep, you may want to stop, because it's a great way to add tens of GBs of writes each and every day. Now if you're concerned about a power outage occurring while in standard sleep in effect causing a disorderly shutdown, there may be hope if you're using a UPS. Before disabling hybrid sleep for good, I verified APC's BX1500G/Powerchute combination wakes my computer and hibernates it in that scenario.
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  5. #15


    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0


    My proposal to use hibernation as a bypass
    of the metro is not suitable for most users.

    I suggest the desktop tile.
    Last edited by mdmd; 11 Jul 2012 at 11:06.
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  6. #16


    Posts : 454
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    This is all semantics now.
    Turning a computer ON from OFF is what?
    Not a boot?
    I fully understand restoring from hibernation is different than a full startup.
    Booting implies starting the OS from a clean slate. Hibernation is just sleep stored to disk. It takes a lot longer to resume from hibernation than sleep, and as long you account for the power outage possibility I discussed, sleep would be the thing to use. It's been rock solid on my Windows 7 computers. But it's still not "booting" per the thread title.

    What is wrong with writing massively to an SSD?
    Is it not electrically less stressful to the magnetic media than writing to a drive with moving parts?
    SSD cells have a limited number of write cycles. For example, my Intel X-25M is rated for something like 15 TB of writes over its lifetime without overprovisioning, which if employed, decreases its capacity by whatever amount you're willing to sacrifice. A PC with say 8 GB of RAM hibernated a few times a day could easily write 20 GB to the SSD each day. That's 7 TB a year. So if I used hybrid sleep or manually hibernated this often, the hibernation process would exhaust my SSD's write cycles in just two years. It's not necessary on a laptop, nor on a PC with a decent UPS as I described; in these scenarios, normal sleep is to be greatly preferred to hybrid sleep or hibernation.

    The poster asked for a way to get to the desktop directly.
    This is one way.
    It's still not booting.

    Whether or not it is a good idea is a matter of opinion.
    It's more than just opinion when using an SSD. It's more than just opinion when you compare the time to resume from hibernation to the time to resume from sleep, which is the same thing modulo the power outage concern, which like I said, doesn't really apply to laptops or desktop PCs using decent UPSes.

    Sleep mode is another issue.

    As I said previously,
    It works for me!
    Do what you want.
    Thanks.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibernation_(computing)
    You should read that article.
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  7. #17


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    Server 2012 / 8.0



    My proposal to use hibernation as a bypass
    of the metro is not suitable for most users.

    I suggest the desktop tile for Windows 8.

    Today, as of this edit,
    I have temporarily gone back to Vista Ultimate.
    Last edited by mdmd; 11 Jul 2012 at 11:09.
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  8. #18


    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0


    Hello.
    I cannot support bypassing the metro if using 8.

    The metro is the start screen shell menu User Interface.
    Last edited by mdmd; 11 Jul 2012 at 11:11.
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  9. #19


    Posts : 299
    win 7 home premium 64 bit


    I'm of the same mind.

    I want to boot from off directly to the desktop.

    I do not like using hibernation for just the reasons crawfish outlined.


    So just how do you accomplish this seemingly ORDINARY task in Windows 8? Anyone?
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  10. #20


    Posts : 4
    Win 8 Pro


    While it's somewhat cumbersome to set up, one method of forcing Windows 8 to boot directly to the desktop is presented here. This method was written for the Consumer Preview. I have not tested it with the Release Preview.
    Last edited by 1OldMan; 04 Jun 2012 at 06:48. Reason: Edit link
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