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  1. #71


    Posts : 3
    Windows 7 & Windows 8 RP


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by poppa bear View Post
    The point is, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Win7 has a start menu that is almost universally accepted as the ultimate in efficiency. Everything is at your fingertips in a Start Menu orb the size of a dime ... not spread over 5 to God knows how many pages!

    The results of this poll alone show that Win8, (and in particular Metro & the lack of the traditional Start Menu), has polarized windows users. It's almost an equal split of those for and against. For 40% of the current users to be disenchanted is a massive swing, whether it's in terms of commerce or politics or whatever!

    The sad part is that like myself, many windows devotees would love to buy and install the retail version of W8, but it is simply too inefficient for serious desk top work.

    Furthermore, many feel betrayed by Microsoft's departure from the traditional role of the supporter of desk top users. Which is further exacerbated by their attitude in refusing to provide an option to boot direct to the UI; which is like rubbing our noses in Metro salt every time we boot up; when they could easily provide an alternative.

    Hell no!!! I'd rather use Linux than accept that from a company I've supported ever since I started using a personal comptuer.
    The start menu looses its efficiency when you have A LOT of programs installed. I for one, had my start menu maxed out so it took a third of the Desktop. After using Windows 8 for about six months and going back to 7, it felt a little more difficult to find something because it was so easy on the Start Screen. I do a lot of Desktopping, and I end up being in the Start Screen for mere seconds when I need to open a program or open a Library. But I do like to troll around in a few apps though....
    100% agree. I have a lot of programs installed as well and get around the Metro screen quicker because I don't have to search through a ton of text to find something like I do in the start menu.

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  2. #72


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    In Windows 7 my main programs that I use almost every day were pined to my taskbar. It wasn't a big deal to go to the start menu and look for something I only used once in a while. If you just type into the search bar its pretty quick to find something obscure. It doesn't get in my way when I don't need it and its there when I do.

    In Windows 8 my main programs that I use every day are on the main Metro screen. Metro is there when I first boot up. That's OK but it immediately disappears once I launch Outlook or IE. Every time I want to open another program I have to hit the Windows key or hunt for the tile in the corner of the screen to get it back. Even if you open it again, as soon as you change focus (I have dual monitors) it disappears again. Kind of makes the live tiles useless don't you think? I like having the taskbar across both monitors and having the Icon for that program on the monitor its open on, so I have resisted pinning any programs to my taskbar. You can only pin them to the taskbar on your main screen. It you do that though and open a program on your second monitor you end up with the icon on both taskbars/monitors? At this point I'm ready to just start pinning things back to my taskbar and avoiding metro as much as I can. Sometimes I feel like there are two operating systems running on my PC at the same time each one fighting the other.
    Last edited by alphanumeric; 06 Jun 2012 at 08:48.
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  3. #73


    Posts : 5,360
    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    Sometimes I feel like there are two operating systems running on my PC at the same time each one fighting the other.
    Fair comment.
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  4. #74


    Posts : 1,320
    Server 2012 / 8.0


    Microsoft should be listening more to the users.


    Windows 8 would be (I think) better if they:
    1) kept the Windows 7 start menu
    added the option:
    2) to switch to classic menu
    3) to be able to detach or float the ORB
    4) to resize the taskbar horizontally
    5) to float the taskbar
    6) to flip the taskbar and put the ORB on the bottom right and the tray on the left
    7) to boot to desktop.

    Also, they should rename the metro to the APP page or something like that.
    (and not add installed programs to the metro UI)
    Using the metro for Apps only !!

    ...And made the metro Internet Explorer flash, silverlight and plug-in friendly.
    Last edited by mdmd; 06 Jun 2012 at 17:15.
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  5. #75


    Posts : 636
    Windows 7/8


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    In Windows 7 my main programs that I use almost every day were pined to my taskbar. It wasn't a big deal to go to the start menu and look for something I only used once in a while. If you just type into the search bar its pretty quick to find something obscure. It doesn't get in my way when I don't need it and its there when I do.

    In Windows 8 my main programs that I use every day are on the main Metro screen. Metro is there when I first boot up. That's OK but it immediately disappears once I launch Outlook or IE. Every time I want to open another program I have to hit the Windows key or hunt for the tile in the corner of the screen to get it back. Even if you open it again, as soon as you change focus (I have dual monitors) it disappears again. Kind of makes the live tiles useless don't you think? I like having the taskbar across both monitors and having the Icon for that program on the monitor its open on, so I have resisted pinning any programs to my taskbar. You can only pin them to the taskbar on your main screen. It you do that though and open a program on your second monitor you end up with the icon on both taskbars/monitors? At this point I'm ready to just start pinning things back to my taskbar and avoiding metro as much as I can. Sometimes I feel like there are two operating systems running on my PC at the same time each one fighting the other.
    Spot on.

    If MS had taken a desktop centric view of their desktop OS, live tiles would have been something you could put ON your desktop like a gadget so, like gadgets, you could monitor them all the time with no flipping back and forth, then you could click on it to open it and that open Metro app could be sized and places anywhere on screen just like any other window.

    Then in Tablet mode it would work as it does now.

    Tablet mode and Desktop mode are vastly different things on vastly different hardware with vastly different purposes. A far better Win8 interface would have realised that and blended Metro INTO the desktop for desktop windows machines.
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  6. #76


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    I wouldn't mind Metro if it would just window like a regular Windows program. I'd like to be able to just pull it up and keep it up, and open another program on top of it without it disappearing if I want. Or even change focus to another app/screen without it disappearing.
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  7. #77


    Posts : 636
    Windows 7/8


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    I wouldn't mind Metro if it would just window like a regular Windows program. I'd like to be able to just pull it up and keep it up, and open another program on top of it without it disappearing if I want. Or even change focus to another app/screen without it disappearing.
    I could see that. Not as sophisticated or customizable, but it would be more useful that how it is now for power users that way I agree...
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  8. #78


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    There is definitely a lot of room for improvement.
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  9. #79


    Perth West Australia
    Posts : 128
    1st PC: Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail. 2nd PC: Vista Ulimtate 32bit OEM

    One Platform


    It's not a question of whether you like Windows 8 or not. Some will, some won't.

    The problem is very simply stated. It's obvious that Windows 8 is aimed at the tablet, touch phone market, at the expense of the serious desk top user.

    Microsoft are economizing by having one operating system for all platforms: Desk top, laptop, tablet, note book and touch phone. Which pretty much makes all discussions in this forum of operating system format academic.

    And all versions of Windows 8 prior to retail are simply promoting their primary push into the tablet, and more importantly, touch phone market.

    M$ have simply become a corporate profit making company so the $$$$ logically come first; as opposed to the pioneering spirit of Bill Gates who cut his teeth building back yard experimental computer stuff, and was a true geek at heart.

    Yesterday I spent over $1,000 buying parts to build a new computer as a birthday present for my elder son. And I bought him Windows 7 Ultimate. That's the first Win8 sale that didn't happen, because I had budgetted that money to build a new rig for the Win8 when the retail released. Since that wasn't gonna happen, and I had to build something, my son became the benificary of my geekish compulsiveness! In fact a free upgrade to Win8 retail when released was offered as part of the deal. Now that's desperation! My son took it, but only for his tablet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    I am very impressed with the improvements they've made to Windows 8 in terms of performance, resource usage, and boot times. This thing flies, and is damn near anorexic compared to Vista and 7.
    As regards speed of Win7 versu Win8, with SSD SATA3 HD, and 12GB RAM and top end CPU & Mobo, my Win7 absolutely burns rubber it's so fast. Any faster and I'd probably go cross eyed trying to keep up with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    The start menu looses its efficiency when you have A LOT of programs installed. I for one, had my start menu maxed out so it took a third of the Desktop.

    But may I ask (I've asked this a few times before), why do you not personally like the metro Start Screen? Is it solely because it doesn't go to the Desktop first?
    I find it hard to understand the logic of a maxed out alpha numeric start menu being harder than a maxed out Metro Start Menu. How long does it take to find a program in alphabetical order with sub-menus hidden? You just go to the letter in the alphabet which names the program you want. I've got 3 columns in my start menu and it takes about 2 seconds to find what I want. None of the system builders or techos in computer shops that I know personally, use tiles or icons. They all use alpha-numeric with cascading sub-menus.

    On the other hand, with Metro, if your start menu is maxed out you must have 30 or 40 pages of tiles. And scrolling through that would be a nightmare, surely?

    Answering your question re my preferences:

    No it's not just the fact it doesn't go to desktop first. It's the fact that metro is totally useless for serious desktop users who multi-function, for reasons stated in many other places on this forum.

    The second most important aggrevation is the fact that it is forced on you, when you don't want to use it. And unless you have a hacked legacy start menu, or umpteem desktop icons, and your taskbar pinning maxed out, you will either have to go off the desktop to Metro and back every time you open a new program. Blaaaahhh!

    The most unacceptable aspect is the bloody minded attitude of Microsoft in refusing to consider offering any options to their army of legacy windows desk top users.
    Last edited by poppa bear; 07 Jun 2012 at 06:37.
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  10. #80


    Posts : 207
    Windows 8.1 update 1 Pro X64 with WMC


    loving it can't wait to final release
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