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  1. #31


    USA
    Posts : 100
    Windows 7 Professional


    If you are using the Consumer Preview right now, then you are not going to like Windows 8 a lot. The Release Preview is so, so much better. It is fast and fluid and very stable. If you don't like the Consumer Preview of Windows 8, then give the Release Preview a try. It is way better.

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  2. #32


    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    This is probably not going to help either, what about pinning your most used Apps to the taskbar and if you need another one hit the Windows key and then the first letter of the App.
    Problem is if you hate it you hate it, maybe wait for Windows 9.
    I don't like the pinned icons on the taskbar either. First modification I do to Windows 7: Shrink the oversized taskbar with small icons, get rid of the silly pinning and restore the QuickLaunch menu for a few things I want access to quickly such as IE, the snipping tool, and my Asus Xonar control panel so I can easily switch between speakers/headphones.


    I use Stardock's Fences to organize frequently used icons and applications on my desktop.

    Some of the more obscure applications such as the little ones for converting video files and other infrequently used applications reside in the start menu. Half the time I forget the names of them so typing their name into the search box doesn't work for me.

    I quite dislike the Vista/7 way of stuffing all the folders/shortcuts into one little list in the Start menu, so I use "Classsic Shell" to give me the XP style programs list.

    I don't think Metro will be good for handling large numbers of applications.
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  3. #33


    Posts : 636
    Windows 7/8


    The mere fact that this new interface so utterly polarises even the most die-hard windows fans is alone enough evidence of it's problem.

    The Microsoft feedback on the preview releases have shown an almost even 50/50 love/hate split. I don;t think I've see that much division in the windows camp in my entire , from the start, windows career.

    And while there may be /some/ resistance to change in there, it's not enough to explain that ratio.

    Personally I LOVE change, I love new things, and I want Windows to be great and kick the living crap out of everyone else. I'm always installing the betas and excitedly looking to what's new. Metro... disappoints me greatly on my desktop.

    Metro for tablets and phones, desktop for laptops and desktops. At least as a choice for people that spend 12 hours a day working on their machines. Metro brings nothing to the table at all when the computer is used as a tool instead of another neat gadget.

    I might love a touch interface on an LCARS type wall mounted AIW 32 inch computer (as a choice) but nothing like that at all on my desktop thank you.

    As it may be said, "One simply cannot... merge ALL forms of computing into a singular interface", no matter how much Star Trek those Metro designers have watched.
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  4. #34


    Posts : 5,360
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    Quote Originally Posted by windude99 View Post
    If you are using the Consumer Preview right now, then you are not going to like Windows 8 a lot. The Release Preview is so, so much better. It is fast and fluid and very stable. If you don't like the Consumer Preview of Windows 8, then give the Release Preview a try. It is way better.
    In what way?

    It looks less awful - which is something.

    I don't see anything else to get excited about.

    Mine isn't fast - neither was CP - a lot of activity for a few minutes after booting up.

    People used to complain about that with Vista.

    It might be windows defender making it go slow.

    When I get the chance, might investigate that.
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  5. #35


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    it's odd i rather like the metro style start menu...the problem i have with it is just how utterly pointless it seems.

    apps..oh how i loathe thee, apps in my mind are cut down half assed versions of full software that should work.

    the hardest thing they will encounter is those that wish to upgrade their os from windows 7 to windows 8 and find it really doesn't work that well without touchscreen, then find people buying a touch screen and not knowing how best to set it up so it doesn't just bug the life out of them and get in the way of their keyboard and mouse and still be at a reasonable distance that they don't want to just smash it with a hammer because it has to be in arms reach at all times to be worth having.

    the conversion to touch screen just isn't going to suit most people, and the reasonable cost of a decent touch screen with a stable stand that feels good to use isn't cheap either, and then there is getting it in the right position at just the right distance and just the right height and so many other variables that it may mean changing alot of in the office just to have it. not a cost i currently see as something many wish to take up.

    personally i just can't see windows 8 being taken up that well on desktops, i love it on my netbook runs great no problems at all, tried it on my desktop and it just felt pointless not an upgrade worth thinking about.

    so I like windows 8 on smaller devices but it just feels lost and really does look weird on giant desktop screens. just how much is a 27" touchscreen ? well an oridinary 27" monitor is around 300 and then there is this....3M MicroTouch M2767PW 27 inch Touchscreen Monitor Display (1080p Full HD, 120Hz, HDMI input, 40 Finger Multi-Touch): Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories oh yup i just see it now swaithes of you all running out and buying one of these.....you could buy 2 fairly decent computers for that price.

    i'd say microsoft have a bigger problem than just their start menu being crap, the fact that decent touch screens cost either the same as the pc or more is a far far bigger problem.
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  6. #36


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by ssbtech View Post
    1) There's NO need for a "touch friendly" interface on a desktop PC or laptop that will be used primarily with a Keyboard and Mouse. Metro might be nice on a tablet/slate PC, but for most users who are familiar and comfortable with the way Windows has been for many many years, this will be an unwelcome shock.

    2) Every tablet/slate PC that I've poked at running Windows 7 was quite friendly to use. The benefit of full Windows functionality was great without being confined to a restrictive iOS/Android interface.

    Ever been using an iOS/Android tablet only to say "When I get back to my main PC I can finish this up more quickly/easily"? With Windows 8, your main PC will now be emulating iDroid whether you like it or not.

    Really, all Microsoft needed to do was make Metro an application that can be launched as a cloud aggregator just like Media Center is a media aggregator. I can't stand "cloud computing" so I have little to no use for Metro, so I'd like a choice.

    And here's my Windows 7 Start Menu, just to show you why I hate, hate, hate the idea of being locked into something resembling Duplo blocks:

    Your start menu reminds me of the xp days with the flyouts that took more than half the Desktop, and then moving the mouse cursor a few pixels from the last flyout and everything vanishing..... oh man....
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  7. #37


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by FSeal View Post
    The mere fact that this new interface so utterly polarises even the most die-hard windows fans is alone enough evidence of it's problem.

    The Microsoft feedback on the preview releases have shown an almost even 50/50 love/hate split. I don;t think I've see that much division in the windows camp in my entire , from the start, windows career.

    And while there may be /some/ resistance to change in there, it's not enough to explain that ratio.

    Personally I LOVE change, I love new things, and I want Windows to be great and kick the living crap out of everyone else. I'm always installing the betas and excitedly looking to what's new. Metro... disappoints me greatly on my desktop.

    Metro for tablets and phones, desktop for laptops and desktops. At least as a choice for people that spend 12 hours a day working on their machines. Metro brings nothing to the table at all when the computer is used as a tool instead of another neat gadget.

    I might love a touch interface on an LCARS type wall mounted AIW 32 inch computer (as a choice) but nothing like that at all on my desktop thank you.

    As it may be said, "One simply cannot... merge ALL forms of computing into a singular interface", no matter how much Star Trek those Metro designers have watched.
    That's metro design for you, you will either love it or hate it and there is really not a bunch of fence sitters. I love the metro design, I got myself immersed in it a couple years ago by using the Zune Software, which by the way, if you want to use THE best metro styled Desktop app out there, one must download it!
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  8. #38


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by windude99 View Post
    If you are using the Consumer Preview right now, then you are not going to like Windows 8 a lot. The Release Preview is so, so much better. It is fast and fluid and very stable. If you don't like the Consumer Preview of Windows 8, then give the Release Preview a try. It is way better.
    In what way?

    It looks less awful - which is something.

    I don't see anything else to get excited about.

    Mine isn't fast - neither was CP - a lot of activity for a few minutes after booting up.

    People used to complain about that with Vista.

    It might be windows defender making it go slow.

    When I get the chance, might investigate that.
    Windows 8 is running slow on you? Is that even possible?

    I haven't had a slowdown from using Windows 8 ever since I started using the Developer Preview. Every build, even the leaked milestone builds, have been fast except for one alpha build.
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  9. #39


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by ssbtech View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BillWindows View Post
    This is probably not going to help either, what about pinning your most used Apps to the taskbar and if you need another one hit the Windows key and then the first letter of the App.
    Problem is if you hate it you hate it, maybe wait for Windows 9.
    I don't like the pinned icons on the taskbar either. First modification I do to Windows 7: Shrink the oversized taskbar with small icons, get rid of the silly pinning and restore the QuickLaunch menu for a few things I want access to quickly such as IE, the snipping tool, and my Asus Xonar control panel so I can easily switch between speakers/headphones.


    I use Stardock's Fences to organize frequently used icons and applications on my desktop.

    Some of the more obscure applications such as the little ones for converting video files and other infrequently used applications reside in the start menu. Half the time I forget the names of them so typing their name into the search box doesn't work for me.

    I quite dislike the Vista/7 way of stuffing all the folders/shortcuts into one little list in the Start menu, so I use "Classsic Shell" to give me the XP style programs list.

    I don't think Metro will be good for handling large numbers of applications.
    I think the Windows 7 taskbar WAS a huge Quicklaunch bar...
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  10. #40


    Posts : 454
    Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center


    Quote Originally Posted by gazz9496 View Post
    i'd say microsoft have a bigger problem than just their start menu being crap, the fact that decent touch screens cost either the same as the pc or more is a far far bigger problem.
    The biggest problem of all is the dearth of applications for the PC form factor that are by their nature amenable to touch. Word processors? Nah. Spreadsheets? Forget it. Message boards? Not on your life. Basically anything that involves a lot of typing or benefits from the precision of the mouse just doesn't translate well to touch. Then there is the awkwardness of reaching out in front to touch the screen, which requires you to be close enough, obscures what you're touching, and smudges the screen. I guess programs that closely emulate the interfaces of physical devices can benefit, such as digital audio workstation software, which tend to have lots of sliders, rotary controls, etc. A child's fingerpainting program would benefit. Anything else?
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