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why did ASUS partition this hard drive this way?

  1. #11


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    LOL, I know the kind. We have over 800 like this in my computer club. If you move an icon from the right side to the left side they are lost. I have tried for a couple of years to educate them with really simple and benign Windows stuff, but they decided that every right click is "advanced". I gave up and joined the small Linux group in the club. At least they are more adventurous.

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    SO TRUE!!
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  3. #13


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    Just so you know, Microsoft, not ASUS put the 450 MB partition on the drive. Otherwise, as you seem to state, the configuration is pretty normal for an install.

    You don't say what type of data is being downloaded, but you might check into how to move that data to the data partition. It can be advantageous to keep a streamlined OS partition and keep your data on another partition, especially during backup and recovery type operations.

    Tread lightly with the "in his 60s" crack...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saltgrass View Post
    Just so you know, Microsoft, not ASUS put the 450 MB partition on the drive. Otherwise, as you seem to state, the configuration is pretty normal for an install.

    You don't say what type of data is being downloaded, but you might check into how to move that data to the data partition. It can be advantageous to keep a streamlined OS partition and keep your data on another partition, especially during backup and recovery type operations.

    Tread lightly with the "in his 60s" crack...
    Yeah, I know it's Asus and not MS...I'm 50+ myself....but it's his normal user Data...Pictures, Music Exec that I'm rerfering to. They should have given him a little more for his OS and programs and put the rest towards his Data, IMO.....What if he were a gamer or heavily into Music or whatever....not much room to install programs and updates if he doesn't know much on how or what to do.

    I started this post because I found it strange that they would do this to your "non-everyday PC user".

    Again, sorry if I offended anyone with the age reference, I was merely painting a picture for people to understand where I was coming from. I myself have a crazy set up, but that's just me, I'm into gaming and what not, I don't have your normal/basic set up. -again, trying to paint you a pic.
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    Give me a break. The C partition is 150GB. I am running all my desktops on 60GB SSDs with the data on the spinners. Not too long ago the normal total HDD capacity for laptops was 120GB and that included the recovery partition. I think the man has ample room on his 150GBs and if you move the user data folders to the data partition there will never be a space problem.

    Hard core gamers are OS smart and know how to manage their space. I don't think your man is that kind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Give me a break. The C partition is 150GB. I am running all my desktops on 60GB SSDs with the data on the spinners. Not too long ago the normal total HDD capacity for laptops was 120GB and that included the recovery partition. I think the man has ample room on his 150GBs and if you move the user data folders to the data partition there will never be a space problem.

    Hard core gamers are OS smart and know how to manage their space. I don't think your man is that kind.
    Yes, you are correct. I've seen a few PC's (gamers) that had SSD's (125-400gb) and they got completely full with their Games and programs. They did have their user data on another drive correctly, especially the lower size drives. Granted, my friend isn't a gamer, but his system only has 85gb left for storage in his C: and he doesn't have anything in there yet.
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  7. #17


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    @whs is only expressing his opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    The data should always be in a separate partition, not on C. Then your data is safe when the system goes down.
    Some find it more convenient, some (like me) don't. If you do want to have separate OS and data partitions on the same disk you have to guess the size of C:\ or you either waste space or run out. There is no advantage when your disk fails if you have partitioned your disk or not.

    The advantage of 8.x is you can refresh without losing your documents so unless you like doing clean installs the whole thing is rather moot anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adamf View Post
    @whs is only expressing his opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    The data should always be in a separate partition, not on C. Then your data is safe when the system goes down.
    Some find it more convenient, some (like me) don't. If you do want to have separate OS and data partitions on the same disk you have to guess the size of C:\ or you either waste space or run out. There is no advantage when your disk fails if you have partitioned your disk or not.

    The advantage of 8.x is you can refresh without losing your documents so unless you like doing clean installs the whole thing is rather moot anyway.
    Yes.. Correct. I myself find it easier to put my user data on a completely different HDD, and just run my OS and games on my SSD. Everything else is on a "mechanical /spinner" HDD. Apparently Asus sets up their HDD's to do this, however, your "basic" PC user won't know to move the target paths for the "user data '.
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  9. #19


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    Quote Originally Posted by Homeuser View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    • Get a copy of windows 8.1 (in the tutorials)
    • Get a copy of Ubuntu and make a live disk or usb(you can burn it using windows burner at the slowest setting.
    • Before you do a reinstall don't forget to sync windows with onedrive
    • Download your model drivers to your ext. HDD so you have them ready(burn to a DVD or place on a thumb drive for future use).
    • Then to save time later download all installed program installers ahead of time(to reinstall later)
    • Also let windows backup your libraries using file history to an external HDD so you can restore them quickly after.
    • Then boot the ubuntu live disk up go to try ubunto(live disk session) call up gparted and destroy the partitions by deleting them.
    • Then install proceed to install windows. should only take about an afternoon to reinstall everything. That's still much faster than Windows 7 and earlier. Then reinstall windows.

    I don't want to quote everyone here that responded, but Thanks to all! you all have valid points.

    I meant no disrespect (WHS & alpha) in regards to him being in his 60's. I can say that about him as I have known him for years and he admits, he know's absolutely nothing about computers. I actually tried changing the default location. This is where it would change all the nice folder icons to an HDD icon. He didn't want that. I also agree in this for a faster format/re-install of the OS. He would never understand what, or why I did what I did. I actually have that setup on my Windows 7 PC. Only once in a while, (for some unknown reason) I get duplicate user folders to reappear on my C: and I know to delete or do what I need to, he wouldn't if that were to happen. He don't even know how to Copy/Cut/Paste.

    I suppose I could try again to just set the D: as the target path for his Documents. With out clicking on the link above, basically, all I do is right click on each folder I want on the D: partition and change the LOCATION from C:\Users\username\Documents and set it to D: That;s all I do...and hope he don't get the double Download, Documents, Music ect folders. At least his stuff would be there in case of a system wipe.

    Thanks again!!! I"ll keep you posted...
    Try this, before you move the locations create duplicate Documents,, Downloads, Pictures etc folders on the D drive. The change it from C:\Users\username\Documents to D:\Documents. The icon should then be a folder Icon and you files won't all be lumped into one place.

    It was just the "a friend who is in his 60's so he wouldn't even know the first thing about computers" comment that irked me a bit. I'm 57 years old. Without knowing you or your friend that comment could rub some people the wrong way. People my age or older for instance. I get it now so no hard feelings. Most of the time I just ignore stuff like that, not sure why I didn't this time?
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    It was just the "a friend who is in his 60's so he wouldn't even know the first thing about computers" comment that irked me a bit. I'm 57 years old. Without knowing you or your friend that comment could rub some people the wrong way. People my age or older for instance. I get it now so no hard feelings. Most of the time I just ignore stuff like that, not sure why I didn't this time?
    Nah, I don't think this is a problem - unless you are extra sensitive. I am 77 and don't have an issue with that. I got my first PC at age 70, but not everybody is that interested in IT.

    Every month at the general meeting of my computer club I see a few hundred of the PC oldies. The average age is 70+ and although they joined a computer club, most have no clue on what is going on inside the PC. They just follow the icons on the desktop. A right click is considered 'advanced'. LOL
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