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A Possible Disaster With Windows 8

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    They're doing it to save money on licensing. Hopefully, the savings will be passed on to the consumers that purchase versions without the features. If not, it's "slimy." That's all I'm saying.

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  2. #42


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    Who pays for the licensing of codecs in Linux, Videolan and other free to end user products, etc? Will the Windows 8 codecs and WMC still be available in Windows Embedded Standard 8 downloads for those developing STBs etc
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    Nobody does very likely, since I am guessing that Linux versions are mostly compiled in Europe, where the long arm of USA copyright has been unable to reach effectively.

    As for VLC, I am completely sure that is the true case.
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    So we non-USA users could sue for a discount, or inclusion then, if MS does not include the feature? I'll have to write to my Euro MP.
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    I dunno - that would be lolz though for the win.

    Here's what I'm saying, by Mike Lonewolf's buddy over at CNET, Ed Bott: https://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/if-vlc-can-ship-a-free-dvd-player-why-cant-microsoft/4962

    "Well, on its “Legal concerns” page the makers of VLC open with a proud declaration: “VideoLAN is an organization based in France,” and “French law … is the only one to be applicable.”
    If you skip to the bottom of the English portion of the page, you see why that matters. This is VideoLAN’s argument:
    Patents and codec licenses
    Neither French law nor European conventions recognize software as patentable (see French section below).
    Therefore, software patents licenses do not apply on VideoLAN software."
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    Nobody does very likely, since I am guessing that Linux versions are mostly compiled in Europe, where the long arm of USA copyright has been unable to reach effectively.

    As for VLC, I am completely sure that is the true case.
    Quite true:
    If VLC can ship a free DVD player, why can't Microsoft

    Ubuntu also doesn't include certain proprietary codecs because of patent and copyright restrictions:
    Restricted Formats

    Edit: You beat me to it Gman
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  7. #47


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    Most things are never awesome the first time, things have to be invented first, then perfected as time goes on. Windows 8 and 9 are going to be transitional OS's, by the time Windows 10 rolls around it should really sweet.

    Microsoft needs to change it's game plan and try to get into the mobile market, that's where the money is, Windows 8 is a start for them, if you don't like Windows 8 then don't buy it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tcman50 View Post
    Microsoft needs to change it's game plan and try to get into the mobile market, that's where the money is, Windows 8 is a start for them, if you don't like Windows 8 then don't buy it.
    I don't understand how this is a justification for taking a desktop OS and making it what 8 is. Just because they want or need to do something for whatever half-baked reason, that reason shouldn't affect actual computers being used by people old enough to have graduated H.S.

    I won't be buying it, but would have liked to see something I would have, instead.
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  9. #49


    By removing the start button and making everyone deal with the Metro interface whether they like it or not, and also removing any way to play a DVD by default and removing WMC they have all but admitted this Op system is not meant to be used on a PC at all.

    They also stripped away many useful features like network mapping and tons of other stuff.

    I really think they left the PC market hanging out to dry on this one by not including the simple option for some type of PC mode which would have been all it takes to appease the masses.

    Of course the same complaints are everywhere so this isn't something they aren't aware of. They certainly did need a good mobile Op system but it seems like a version with optional modes for both would have been better. Maybe Windows 9 will show some improvement towards the PC market again rather than catering to the mobile market which seems to be the case here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tcman50 View Post
    Most things are never awesome the first time, things have to be invented first, then perfected as time goes on. Windows 8 and 9 are going to be transitional OS's, by the time Windows 10 rolls around it should really sweet.

    Microsoft needs to change it's game plan and try to get into the mobile market, that's where the money is, Windows 8 is a start for them, if you don't like Windows 8 then don't buy it.
    I don't find Windows 8 that transitional, a couple of days and it's not that much different to Windows 7. As far as MS trying to get into the mobile market, that's the funniest comment I've ever heard. They are turning themselves inside out and spending billions trying to get into the mobile market.
    It looks as though it's finally starting to work, Wp7 has doubled its market share to 6% in Germany, and the rest of Europe, the UK and US has risen 1% to 4%, which is a great turn around considering it was plummeting beforehand.
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