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  1. #11


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    Windows 8 is far from ready. You cannot make a corporate choice based on a early release consumer preview. The final OS is over half a year away. The deployment tools are not even out of beta yet. Rushing to a decision based on a early preview is un-wise. Roll out your Windows 7 deployment. Then 3 or 4 months after Win8 is released then go back and consider it for the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haxcid View Post
    Windows 8 is far from ready.
    Have to disagree. That being said, I think Windows 7 is the much wiser choice for enterprise. Business use does not need, require or will not benefit in any manner from 8's new features. I can only see it getting in the way of the "average" worker and their workflow.

    The Finance app seems fairly good for those that are into that kind of thing, though.
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  3. #13


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    Quote Originally Posted by Haxcid View Post
    Windows 8 is far from ready. You cannot make a corporate choice based on a early release consumer preview. The final OS is over half a year away. The deployment tools are not even out of beta yet. Rushing to a decision based on a early preview is un-wise. Roll out your Windows 7 deployment. Then 3 or 4 months after Win8 is released then go back and consider it for the future.
    Got2 covered this in his last message. It takes years before ANY changes occur in a large corporation. All changes, even minor ones, have to be thoroughly evaluated before being rolled out. Got2 was NOT contemplating rolling out Win8, that would be stupid and would get him fired! Like all good administrators, he is looking at Win8 to see what benefits it could bring to the table for his company. What would the company benefit from the Metro interface? What admin tools have been improved to make his life easier? That is why Got2's post here is a good one as I have not heard from anyone in company's reaction to Win8 yet.
    Evaluating software and rolling it out is a constant and unappreciated part of the admin team. My neighbor works in a 30 man office. They just started using Acrobat reader newer than the old version 7 (like 4 years ago!). Of course, the latest reader broke printing some of their most important documents. No, changing stuff is fraught with peril.
    Got2, sorry for putting words in your mouth, heh (and I hope Kyle is still a guy's name as I used he a lot, those dang women are hijacking our names!)
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  4. #14


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    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Haxcid View Post
    Windows 8 is far from ready.
    Have to disagree. That being said, I think Windows 7 is the much wiser choice for enterprise. Business use does not need, require or will not benefit in any manner from 8's new features. I can only see it getting in the way of the "average" worker and their workflow.

    The Finance app seems fairly good for those that are into that kind of thing, though.
    The enterprise SKU/version has not been released yet. There is no possible way to know for sure what changes, if any, will be in that version. I don't disagree that Windows 7 is the wiser choice at this very moment but to completely exclude Windows 8 based solely on a consumer preview is not sound reasoning. As I stated roll with 7 at this time, then after 8 is released along with all the final versions of the deployment tools and the enterprise SKU, make your decision for the future. I have already begun initial evals and testing for our network (6000 computers shared among 16000 users). He is part of the MS assurance program which gives him access to MSDN and all the available tools and SKU's. (MSDN and 2 log ins are included in most assurance programs).

    @johnpombrio

    It does not take years to evaluate and deploy such software as reader. I work in Education, between teachers, administration, state and federal governments we have hundreds of programs to deal with. I wish I had only 30 users to deal with and a handful of apps to worry about.
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    Totally get what you mean. Sure.

    What I mean is that the OS is ready on a stability/reliability factor - the code is ready and there are no showstoppers known. Obviously, companies or official workplaces are not going to be running a beta no matter how good it is.
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  6. #16


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    Haxid, I stand corrected! Thanks for filling in your thoughts on how super admin types are viewing Win8. With all of the articles on the web about Win8, this post is the FIRST I have heard of what large users think of it. Keep your impressions coming! BTW, have YOU adopted Win7 yet across the board?

    Reader was not a years long project, just one that was "we really should use stuff that has been written in THIS century" thought by admin. Sheer inertia and fear of breaking the kludges that were needed to get the 1st version running.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnpombrio View Post
    Haxid, I stand corrected! Thanks for filling in your thoughts on how super admin types are viewing Win8. With all of the articles on the web about Win8, this post is the FIRST I have heard of what large users think of it. Keep your impressions coming! BTW, have YOU adopted Win7 yet across the board?

    Reader was not a years long project, just one that was "we really should use stuff that has been written in THIS century" thought by admin. Sheer inertia and fear of breaking the kludges that were needed to get the 1st version running.
    About 90% of the machines capable of running Win 7 are running it. All new hardware comes in with my deployment already integrated from the factory. The last hold outs are set to fall this summer. We have I think, 250 to 300 running Vista still as at the time it was not feasible to bring down the machine and change it to 7 however that time has passed. By Sept. 1 we will be all 7 and XP. Schools don't throw anything away because of such limited funding so we still have a mass of XP machines out there. Probably around 400 or so which the hardware is not capable of running 7 well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haxcid View Post
    Probably around 400 or so which the hardware is not capable of running 7 well.
    No such thing. 7 runs better on ancient hardware than XP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Haxcid View Post
    Probably around 400 or so which the hardware is not capable of running 7 well.
    No such thing. 7 runs better on ancient hardware than XP.
    Athlon 750Mhz - 1Ghz with 512 pc133 ram which is shared with video. XP runs better, not by much but it does run better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haxcid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Haxcid View Post
    Probably around 400 or so which the hardware is not capable of running 7 well.
    No such thing. 7 runs better on ancient hardware than XP.
    Athlon 750Mhz - 1Ghz with 512 pc133 ram which is shared with video. XP runs better, not by much but it does run better.
    haha yes, you got me there...

    My "ancient" was more along the lines of P4 and about 768 RDRAM or something like that. I have no experience with a machine as you say, but true...it makes sense to me what you're saying.
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