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Is there a fix to a ssd problem im having?

  1. #1


    Posts : 7
    Windows 8.1

    Is there a fix to a ssd problem im having?


    So I bought a msata ssd to make my laptop boot faster, and I had some issues. I cloned over my hardrive partition that has my OS (Windows 8.1) and most of my programs onto my ssd, and I changed the boot drive to my ssd. It did boot, and did it quite quickly, but I was having some issues. These issues included my taskbar and desktop randomly reloading every minute or so, and when that happened, any program I was using would go out of full screen and would be paused. This also meant that if I was looking in folders or files when the desktop and taskbar refreshed, it would close the window. Another problem was that I could not access my metro apps or my system settings. After this happened for a while, I decided maybe it was an issue with the same files being on both the hdd and the ssd, so I deleted the partition of my hardrive that I cloned over to my ssd. Big mistake. I tried to boot my os, but it would only boot the screen with the time on it, and the login page for my account. The page with the time on it also did not have my regular subway background on it, but had a teal blue background. After I put in my 4-digit password, it would only go back to the page where you select which account you want to use. So I would select it again, and type my password in yet again, only to find that it went back to the account selection page. Is there anyone who knows how to fix this? It would be a huge help, as I cannot even access my laptop right now.

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    After this happened for a while, I decided maybe it was an issue with the same files being on both the hdd and the ssd, so I deleted the partition of my hardrive that I cloned over to my ssd. Big mistake. I tried to boot my os, but it would only boot the screen with the time on it, and the login page for my account.
    Edit - ok read through again Remeber to Backup all files you deem important before anything! (music/pictures/movies..)


    put in your old hard drive, or even boot up windows through a recovery CD/USB and then clone over that SSD again, - oops you can't you deleted it.. ok thats gone..


    EDIT 2 - can you "Refresh" windows through the Pc Settings? Refresh Windows 8[2]=Installation%20and%20Setup


    -Ok so from what it sounds like, Your options are to :

    1. use a boot CD/USB to try to copy over important files you want to keep from that SSD you have to some USB or External Drive etc..

    then install windows to the SSD via the Clean install method posted here on this forum.


    or

    2. install windows on the old hard drive.. then copy over whatever files you really wanted from the messed up SSD (assuming it shows up in windows explorer once you install windows on the old hard drive) and then format that SSD with diskpart using "clean" command. and then take out your "old" hard drive and run a windows installer (usb/cd) to install windows on the SSD.. then put in your old hard drive and try to copy over the files you want back to the SSD..
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  3. #3


    Posts : 7
    Windows 8.1

    Sorry I wasn't specific, I know that's confusing


    So thanks for replying, but I have all of my files on the ssd, because I cloned them over, but I don't have them on my hard drive. I called lenovo (the company my computer is from) and they said it might be an issue and I should research oem windows 8.1 cloning. So basically they said that the OS is somewhat tied to the hardrive, and if I moved it to the ssd, that might be the reason I was getting the wierd glitches. Also, the ssd is perfectly fine, but just won't launch the OS properly because the OS is "linked" to the hardrive. I was thinking If I can't figure anything out, I can find a way to clone back the data from the ssd to the hardrive, and it might work again. However, this would be a giant pain in my butt, as I did all of this to have the OS on my ssd, so I could load my OS faster, as I could get up to a 3 minute boot time on my laptop that was off for a while using the hardrive. If you have any idea how to fix the issue with the "OEM windows 8.1 cloning" thing, that would be greatly appreciated. -Josh Creany
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    Windows 8.1


    Forgot to mention this sorry: so i have everything I had on my hdd on my ssd, so I have all of my data, it's just that windows 8.1 won't boot correctly
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  5. #5


    Hi,

    I'll start praying for you right now. You have a Lenovo.. I had a lenovo laptop not too long ago. I won't begin and leave it at that. I'm shocked the Lenovo support even told you anything remotely ok. they usually just say "go to a service technician or send your computer in for repair".. oh god i have to stop..


    can you get into the windows on the SSD you have right now and do a Refresh Windows 8?
    and backup all your important files right now.. try cloning back to the regular hard drive.. it all sounds like such a waste of time. it sounds like you will in the end, just have to install windows clean to the SSD and start over..



    but in the meantime,
    start with these.. you got a lot of reading to do dude..

    Move OEM Windows 8 from 1TB Hard Drive to 64GB msata SSD - Microsoft Community


    https://social.technet.microsoft.com...w8itprogeneral


    Cloning my HDD to SSD [Solved] - SSD - Windows 8


    how to move windows 8 oem from ssd to hdd? [Solved] - SSD - Windows 8
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  6. #6


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    I think the original intent of the mSATA in your laptop was to use it as a cache drive to the regular hard drive. That is done with special software you install. You don't move Windows over to it. If you only moved the Windows partition over the actual boot partition is on the hard drive. I think you need to do more to make it work the way you intend. You may have to clone over the first 3 partitions on the hard drive. 'How big is the mSATA SSD. I run a 128 GB SSD for my OS in my laptop and put my Data on a second 256 GB SSD. You could likely get away with a 60 GB SSD but I wouldn't go any smaller. If you can afford it, ditch the mSATA, and swap out your hard drive for a full sized SATA SSD. It will give you much better performance.
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    I had a similar SSD problem.
    I posted on the Win 8 Forum & received a lot "should Haves" & "don't dos" but NO real help!
    SSDs are a NEW TECNOLOGY & little experienced help is available.

    My advice to the casual reader is "If YOU DO NOT HAVE REAL HELP DON'T POST"!

    My Post on this forum ended with an Intrusive advert for downloading a fix for everything
    & the then blocking any further use of the post.

    I was very disappointed at the results of my post. Usually I receive concise & applicable answers!

    The only one that was interested was Brink.

    I solved my problem by setting up a new HD with new Win 8.1 & some basic MS programs.

    Then made the HD the BOOT C: Drive & the SSD as BOOT D: Drive.
    This was done in the ASUS BOOT system.
    Start the cloning as HDD as the cloner & the SSD as the clone!

    IT Worked!

    But I still have problems which I have not have time to work on.
    They are;
    Sound will not play on the TV HDMI port. Had to use external speakers plugged into the green sound port on the motherboard.
    Can not set up the Homgroup Network.

    Both of these worked using the HDD.

    If you have success ( You Will in spite of a lot of "NO HELP, HELP") in setting up your SSD please let me know!


    That "Old Fart"

    Tully
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  8. #8


    Harrisonburg, Va.
    Posts : 10,488
    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center


    My advice is to get factory recovery disks & start from scratch.

    I bought mine from Gateway & think the money {$20} well spent.

    I've had to use them twice.

    edit--- then when everything is running ok, get Macrium Reflect Standard version & back up your entire system on usb.

    edit #2--- Speaking of recovery disks & Macrium, When I did something stupid & had to use the recovery disks, I had My Macrium Image on hand.
    When the disks restored 8 OEM, I plopped in my usb & recovered straight to 8.1.1 Pro WMC without having to do anything else.
    Of course I was using a Microsoft account & my restoration was automatically activated.
    Last edited by David Bailey; 19 Jan 2015 at 10:29.
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  9. #9


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    I have SSD's in 3 of my 4 PC's. All are running Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit. Clean installs on all of them. I didn't have to do anything special or different from what I do with a normal SATA hard drive. The only time I've had issues was when I tried to clone my original factory install from the factory drive to the SSD. It wasn't long before I gave up and did a clean install. For me the issue wasn't a result of the drive being an SSD. The issue was that the original spinner drive was 750 GB versus the 128 GB SSD. I had to adjust partition sizes and it just didn't work. I clean install of Windows and all was fixed.
    Last edited by alphanumeric; 19 Jan 2015 at 17:14.
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  10. #10


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Tully View Post
    I had a similar SSD problem.
    I posted on the Win 8 Forum & received a lot "should Haves" & "don't dos" but NO real help!
    SSDs are a NEW TECNOLOGY & little experienced help is available.

    My advice to the casual reader is "If YOU DO NOT HAVE REAL HELP DON'T POST"!

    My Post on this forum ended with an Intrusive advert for downloading a fix for everything
    & the then blocking any further use of the post.

    I was very disappointed at the results of my post. Usually I receive concise & applicable answers!

    The only one that was interested was Brink.

    I solved my problem by setting up a new HD with new Win 8.1 & some basic MS programs.

    Then made the HD the BOOT C: Drive & the SSD as BOOT D: Drive.
    This was done in the ASUS BOOT system.
    Start the cloning as HDD as the cloner & the SSD as the clone!

    IT Worked!

    But I still have problems which I have not have time to work on.
    They are;
    Sound will not play on the TV HDMI port. Had to use external speakers plugged into the green sound port on the motherboard.
    Can not set up the Homgroup Network.

    Both of these worked using the HDD.

    If you have success ( You Will in spite of a lot of "NO HELP, HELP") in setting up your SSD please let me know!


    That "Old Fart"

    Tully
    If it's this thread, SSD Drives I am trying to help, but to be honest I am having a hard time understanding what the actual problem is. If you have another thread on the go that I missed PM me with a link and I'll have a look.
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