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Should Windows create a Restore Point before updating?

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    Greece
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    Should Windows create a Restore Point before updating?


    I just had a problem with my laptop and, though I've managed to recover from it (I think), I was considering doing a System Restore to before it happened. Since we had updates this week I assumed that Windows would have created a Restore Point a couple of days ago, but when I look, the last one is from 10th Jan, which I created before a System Image.

    I can see earlier Restore Points associated with Windows Installer, and I had thought that one was automatically created before Windows installed updates. Am I mistaken?

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    Mine doesn't , but I do one manually be fore updates.
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    St. Augustine
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    On my Desktop as well as my Laptop the only times I see when Windows Updates automatically creates a Restore Point is when one of the updates is marked as critical. I think Windows 8.1 might auto-create a Restore point ever 6-7 days or so if one has not already been created manually or via some other trigger.

    Personally I always manually create a Restore Point at least every other day and sometimes daily depending on what I have been doing in addition I always manually create a Restore Point before Windows Updates or installing any software or uninstalling anything. It's free and easy and you can always delete all or all but the most recent.

    I also image the system at least once a week or more often using Macrium and an external HDD.
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    In addition to gator's backups I find it a good idea to make Registry backups on occasion. I have used ERUNT across many versions of Windows. But there are others I'm sure.

    Edit: Registry backup has the advantage you can restore a munged Registry setting without overwriting other system files. It just gives you another option.
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    It depends on how the software updater was written. It can be made to not request Windows do a Restore point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaggyMaggyPoo View Post
    I just had a problem with my laptop and, though I've managed to recover from it (I think), I was considering doing a System Restore to before it happened. Since we had updates this week I assumed that Windows would have created a Restore Point a couple of days ago, but when I look, the last one is from 10th Jan, which I created before a System Image.

    I can see earlier Restore Points associated with Windows Installer, and I had thought that one was automatically created before Windows installed updates. Am I mistaken?
    That's a really good question, After reading I looked for triggers in Task Scheduler and it was blank on that tab:
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    Greece
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint View Post
    Mine doesn't , but I do one manually be fore updates.
    I haven't been doing because I had assumed that it was being done automatically . Another task to think about.

    Quote Originally Posted by gator2013 View Post
    On my Desktop as well as my Laptop the only times I see when Windows Updates automatically creates a Restore Point is when one of the updates is marked as critical ... I always manually create a Restore Point before Windows Updates or installing any software or uninstalling anything.
    I guess I must have noticed this when there was a critical update and just jumped to conclusions. I always try to remember to manually create a Restore Point before installing etc. but my memory doesn't always live up to my expectations . I do also try to create backups every couple of weeks, both Windows own and Macrium. The problem I had in this instance was just before I was going to do a new backup, so several days after the previous one. Sod's law is alive and kicking.

    Quote Originally Posted by MilesAhead View Post
    In addition to gator's backups I find it a good idea to make Registry backups on occasion. I have used ERUNT across many versions of Windows. But there are others I'm sure.

    Edit: Registry backup has the advantage you can restore a munged Registry setting without overwriting other system files. It just gives you another option.
    Does this mean my System Image backups aren't the best option for the Registry? This is a totally new area for me to start thinking about.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    That's a really good question, After reading I looked for triggers in Task Scheduler and it was blank on that tab
    Thanks for introducing me to Task Scheduler Cliff. (I just spent some time browsing and deleting some stuff out of there .) Mine is also blank on the triggers tab but all the comments received have got me thinking about maybe setting a trigger to create a daily Restore Point.
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    Does this mean my System Image backups aren't the best option for the Registry? This is a totally new area for me to start thinking about.
    It's not that one backup should preclude another. It should supplement it. It only takes a few seconds to run ERUNT. So you can make backups fairly frivolously. It's another tool is all.
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    Greece
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesAhead View Post
    It's not that one backup should preclude another. It should supplement it. It only takes a few seconds to run ERUNT. So you can make backups fairly frivolously. It's another tool is all.
    Thanks, I will have another look at this. I assume the program you've linked to works okay with 8.1 as the site only talks about OS's up to 7 from what I recall.

    It could be a good idea to do this now as I'm apparently due a hard disk failure imminently!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaggyMaggyPoo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MilesAhead View Post
    It's not that one backup should preclude another. It should supplement it. It only takes a few seconds to run ERUNT. So you can make backups fairly frivolously. It's another tool is all.
    Thanks, I will have another look at this. I assume the program you've linked to works okay with 8.1 as the site only talks about OS's up to 7 from what I recall.

    It could be a good idea to do this now as I'm apparently due a hard disk failure imminently!
    I don't have W8.1 to try it but it works for me on W8.0. It's one of those NT based utilities that pretty much works on any Windows flavor NT 4 or later. It's just backing up Registry hives after all. To make sure you get the entire registry in a backup there's the Restore Point.

    I recommend taking some time to read the Readme file that comes with ERUNT. But at some time when you aren't under the gun. It's quite detailed and not a casual read. So it's best absorbed when you can devote your concentration.
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