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Thinking of replacing W7 64bit with the W8 preview. Need feedback

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    [QUOTE=Coke Robot;87393][QUOTE=mystvearn;87370]
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Windows 8 has A LOT of touch centric control that Windows 7 doesn't have. The Start Screen is in itself, the main touch interface. Windows 8 has side swiping gestures that work great with touch. It doesn't really ruin the Desktop experience as long as you configure it to do so. For example, after an install of the Consumer Preview, media files want to open in metro apps that take you away from the Desktop. Uninstall those and use the Desktop programs and you'll be fine.
    I've seen few reviews on youtube so I sort of get it. I understand what you mean by not ruining the desktop. But for me the start button on W7 was never the main place I went. Most used software are pinned on the start bar. I don't like the ideae of the moving away from my desktop once I press the start button. Also, what is the use of touch controls on a desktop. I don't have a touchscreen. Also, I don't want to get a touch screen. The last thing I want is smudges all over the screen. Navigating on something that is 10" screen is fine. Try doing it on 23" x2 and you will get fatigue.

    That is why I sort of get it as well why people on the [H]ardocp forums say its bad. W8 itself is not bad, but from a desktop perspective, where one hand is always on the mouse, the other on the keyboard, it is kind of pointless and time consuming having to lift your hand and touch the screen. Ergonomically that is slightly wrong. It actually would be fine if touch replaced the mouse completely, but we have been using mouse and keyboard input for a very long time and some software ergonomics will not work properly just by touching. Simple cropping in photoshop or applying brush changes would be horrible. Your hand is getting in the way of what you want to retouch

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    Looks like I will be getting W8 after all. Better multimonitor support and one less installed software is always good
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  3. #13


    Camarillo, Ca.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mystvearn View Post
    Hi,

    I was wondering if W8 is good enough that I can ditch my W7 64 bit completely and use W8 consumer preview for my desktop. I don't have a touch screen so will not be using those touch stuff. Only normal work and decide if I should preorder W8. Core applications which work on W7 which I can't live without:

    MS Office,
    Endnote,
    Adobe (acrobat pro, CS4),
    rainlendar,
    pop peeper.
    W7 desktop gadgets

    Does anyone know if all of these work on W8? If all is fine, I would just upgrade it immediately. I did try W7 consumer preview when it first came out few years ago and only the printer software did not work. Everything else worked fine.

    Also, I have one of those all-in-one-desktops from dell which is a huge monitor with all the hardware being built behind the monitor. That monitor has touch screen capability. Would it be worth to put W8 on that, though I am not sure if the drivers will work though.


    I read the comparison here and it seems W8 is better
    Comparison Between Windows 7 and Windows 8 Memory Management System - Tweaking with Vishal
    To answer your question, if it is modern software and works in windows 7 then you should have no issues. CS4 works fine, as does Office (2003 -2010), and end note. 8 I think has its own gadgets but the one from 7 should work.
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    Covington, La
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    Windows 7 HP 64bit, Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64BIT


    My advice is to dual boot W8 with W7. W8 is just a beta and another release is coming out the 1st week of June and don't know if you can upgrade or not, so may require a fresh install. Also when the final version is released in Sept of Oct another fresh install will probably be required.

    Jim
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  5. #15


    Hafnarfjörður IS
    Posts : 4,376
    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Hi there
    Once you get used to the navigation -- I actually quite like it -- then I think you should go for it.
    Backup your W7 to an image and store it somewhere in case you want (or have) to revert back to W7.

    You may need to change the method of working -- the metro tiles can get in the way unless you tidy them up. Put your really commonly used programs on the desktop or taskbar. I really don't miss the START Menu --arguments all over the web on that one.

    I love also the Windows to Go feature -- am running this now on a Work laptop that runs "XP" still at work but have booted W8 to go from an external HDD.

    Even running from an External HDD connected via a USB2 port the system is responsive enough. Can even run Photoshop fairly reasonably too !!!.

    Haven't found anything that won't run on it yet that I was using in W7.

    When I have to use the XP system it really DOES feel like a Dinosaur although I liked it at the time.

    Incidentally -- for ease of re-installs - keep images of your install disks in say an INSTALLABLES folder (and any .EXE type install stuff too).

    Windows 8 has a built in Virtual CD / DVD mounter which makes it very easy to save all your old install disks as .iso's and just mount them when required.

    Having an Installables folder cuts down very significantly the time if and when you have to do a re-install as you just work down the folder. !!

    I am quite prepared for possibly another release of W8 before "The real" edition hits the stores.

    Note that it expires around the middle of January next year so you still have plenty of time to play with it.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  6. #16


    Las Vegas, NV
    Posts : 76
    Win 8.1 Update 1 Pro 32-bit


    Hey Jimbo,

    I couldn't agree more with what you just said. I've been using Win 8 CP exclusively now for a month and a half. The only problem I've had is the special HP Media Keyboard Driver will not install and I cannot flash my BIOS (yet!). It does an OS version check and refuses to install under Win 8.

    I've gotten very used to the Start Screen after cleaning it up and rearranging it for ease of use. The All Apps page of it is so similar to Start Menu 7 (which I used exclusively in Win 7), I can't imagine going back now.

    I have a Win 7 image tucked away on an external drive (it's now 1 1/2 months old) and will probably never reinstall it. I've gotten that used to Win 8!

    So far I haven't found any programs that will not run on it (other than certain drivers), including some old programs optimized for Win XP. I have a highly graphical game meant for Win 98 and XP that actually runs better on Win 8.

    John
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    I, like JCClouser, fell in love with Windows 8 immediately. Tried it for a few days as a guest OS in VMWare and then decided to upgrade my Windows 7 installation to Windows 8 CP. It works like a charm, although I have some annoying trouble with IE10 in metro mode. Otherwise everything runs just as good under Windows 8 as Windows 7, only faster as far as I can tell.
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    8250 x86 + 7 SP1 x86 + Ubuntu 12.04 LTS x86


    Quote Originally Posted by JCClouser View Post
    The only problem I've had is the special HP Media Keyboard Driver will not install and I cannot flash my BIOS (yet!).
    That's what the device manager and DOS are for.

    For the latter, download the non-Windows version of the bios installer. Boot to DOS image and run the bios update .exe there. Have the image you're flashing to ready as well.

    That's the "real" way to do it anyhow. It's only the past few years or more that makers started allowing bios flashing inside Windows, which seems to go well for most, but is probably still not the greatest of ideas with all those notorious antivirus and other drivers crashing machines.
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  9. #19


    Las Vegas, NV
    Posts : 76
    Win 8.1 Update 1 Pro 32-bit


    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JCClouser View Post
    The only problem I've had is the special HP Media Keyboard Driver will not install and I cannot flash my BIOS (yet!).
    That's what the device manager and DOS are for.

    For the latter, download the non-Windows version of the bios installer. Boot to DOS image and run the bios update .exe there. Have the image you're flashing to ready as well.

    That's the "real" way to do it anyhow. It's only the past few years or more that makers started allowing bios flashing inside Windows, which seems to go well for most, but is probably still not the greatest of ideas with all those notorious antivirus and other drivers crashing machines.
    Hey GMan,

    I've copied the HP driver folders from my Win 7 image and installed the .inf with the Device Manager. It apparently installs properly, I reboot, but the extra multimedia and function keys are not mapped. The actual installer software from HP is for Win 7 64-bit. When I run it, it goes through the file extraction process, but refuses to actually do the update process. It has an error that basically reads that my system does not meet the minimum OS requirements and cancels the install.

    John
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    Under "normal" circumstances, does the driver installer also install software too, like an .exe that starts with Windows?

    If so, try just running that .exe off of your already installed 7 partition. If that works well, try copying the folder that holds that .exe to a permanent place on your 8, then add the .exe to autostart with Windows 8.
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