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Intel Rapid Storage Technology in NON-RAID system

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    Intel Rapid Storage Technology in NON-RAID system


    I don't know if this is a general thing, or some specific thing that should be elsewhere, so...

    Asus X99 Deluxe, 5820k, 1TB SSD, 3TB data HDD, 2TB backup HDD

    The system I just put together does NOT have any RAID disks. I've had RAID setups in the past and found that the frequency of disk failure was DRASTICALLY lower than the frequency of stupid human tricks (my failure). So, I have internal and external backups that run regularly.

    I looked at the information at Intel on the Rapid Storage Technology. It CLAIMS a variety of performance and reliability gains even WITHOUT RAID. So, I turned it on.

    I ignored the Ctrl/I invite to create RAID volumes and let the 8.1 system boot normally. Won't boot. After a LONG time sitting and spinning, a VERY quick screen flashes that it encountered errors and throws me back to the BIOS.

    If I turn RST back off, boots normally...

    Two questions: IS there, in fact, any advantage to what RST provides for non-RAID systems? Intel claims improvements for both HDD and SDD drives. I've seen topics that claimed performance improvements because the drivers are better than the default ones. I've seen entries that claimed absolutely NO improvement...

    If there IS an advantage, can someone tell me how to get RST to work properly in a non-RAID system?

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    Don't use it myself. Had it installed for awhile and seemed to cause problems. Uninstalled and don't notice any performance hit.

    Personally believe the fewer of these add-ons you can run with the better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by popeye View Post
    Don't use it myself. Had it installed for awhile and seemed to cause problems. Uninstalled and don't notice any performance hit.

    Personally believe the fewer of these add-ons you can run with the better.
    I agree. I think Intel Rapid Storage is a gimmick and doesn't help your system. I have it on my laptop and I don't notice any improvement in performance. Software can aid hardware, but the hardware will only operate as fast as it is intended to. No software can change this. Intel Rapid Storage Technology page doesn't have any explanation for how it works. Just leave it uninstalled if it bothers your system. If you want increased performance, install Windows on a SSD.

    Links:
    Intel® Rapid Storage Technology
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    Interesting. Well, if the claims of magical performance benefits aren't of much value, unless someone else shows up with information that says there IS enough benefit to make it worth messing with, I think I'll just leave it turned off and not mess with it...
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    leave it off.. don't install more crap ..

    really think through this one... it's pretty obvious..

    if Intel Rapid whatever crap it's called really was worth it.. wouldn't they have built it in to the cpu/hardware already??

    why is it something outside that you need to install after windows is installed?

    did you think through this one yet?

    obviously intel is in testing stage with this still or they would naturally put it in there chips etc.. and companies would use it as normal.. built-in already..

    *edit - I literally just went over intel's website hunting for what rapid does and/or is.. you can not find a single thing that makes sense on their website..

    apparently it's something to do with putting stuff in cache is my guess. to try to be like ram or something.. but regardless..

    this is so true - "your hardware can only run as fast as intended".. buy an ssd.. (probably samsung)
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    Quote Originally Posted by bassfacer22 View Post
    leave it off.. don't install more crap ..

    really think through this one... it's pretty obvious..

    if Intel Rapid whatever crap it's called really was worth it.. wouldn't they have built it in to the cpu/hardware already??

    why is it something outside that you need to install after windows is installed?

    did you think through this one yet?

    obviously intel is in testing stage with this still or they would naturally put it in there chips etc.. and companies would use it as normal.. built-in already..
    They've had Intel RST for like 10 years... It's nothing new... It's a marketing scheme to use against AMD.
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    ok i'll take that as an answer too.. funny i have stock in AMD.. you know its like $2.50 a share right now?? haha.. too funny..

    anyway here is intel crap..
    Intel® Rapid Storage Technology (Intel® RST)
    Product Overview
    Intel® Rapid Storage Technology offers new levels of protection, performance and expandability for desktop and mobile platforms. Whether using one or multiple hard drives, users can take advantage of enhanced performance and lower power consumption. When using more than one drive, the user can have added protection against data loss in the event of a hard drive failure.
    The Intel Rapid Storage Technology user interface makes creating and managing your storage simple and intuitive. Combined with Intel® Rapid Recover Technology, setting up data protection can be done easily with an external drive.
    Valuable digital memories are protected against a hard drive failure when the system is configured for any one of three fault-tolerant RAID levels: RAID 1, RAID 5 or RAID 10. By seamlessly storing copies of data on one or more additional hard drives, any hard drive can fail without data loss or system downtime. When the failed drive is removed and a replacement hard drive is installed, data fault tolerance is easily restored.
    Intel® Rapid Storage Technology can also improve the performance of disk intensive retrieval applications such as editing home video. By combining from two to six drives in a RAID 0 configuration, data can be accessed on each drive simultaneously. This configuration speeds up response time on data-intensive applications. Also, due to drive load balancing, even systems with RAID 1 can take advantage of faster boot times and data reads.
    Intel Rapid Storage Technology provides benefits to users of single drives as well. Through AHCI, storage performance is improved with Native Command Queuing (NCQ). AHCI also delivers longer battery life with Link Power Management (LPM), which can reduce the power consumption of the chipset and Serial ATA (SATA) hard drive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bassfacer22 View Post
    ok i'll take that as an answer too.. funny i have stock in AMD.. you know its like $2.50 a share right now?? haha.. too funny..

    anyway here is intel crap..
    Intel® Rapid Storage Technology (Intel® RST)
    Product Overview
    Intel® Rapid Storage Technology offers new levels of protection, performance and expandability for desktop and mobile platforms. Whether using one or multiple hard drives, users can take advantage of enhanced performance and lower power consumption. When using more than one drive, the user can have added protection against data loss in the event of a hard drive failure.
    The Intel Rapid Storage Technology user interface makes creating and managing your storage simple and intuitive. Combined with Intel® Rapid Recover Technology, setting up data protection can be done easily with an external drive.
    Valuable digital memories are protected against a hard drive failure when the system is configured for any one of three fault-tolerant RAID levels: RAID 1, RAID 5 or RAID 10. By seamlessly storing copies of data on one or more additional hard drives, any hard drive can fail without data loss or system downtime. When the failed drive is removed and a replacement hard drive is installed, data fault tolerance is easily restored.
    Intel® Rapid Storage Technology can also improve the performance of disk intensive retrieval applications such as editing home video. By combining from two to six drives in a RAID 0 configuration, data can be accessed on each drive simultaneously. This configuration speeds up response time on data-intensive applications. Also, due to drive load balancing, even systems with RAID 1 can take advantage of faster boot times and data reads.
    Intel Rapid Storage Technology provides benefits to users of single drives as well. Through AHCI, storage performance is improved with Native Command Queuing (NCQ). AHCI also delivers longer battery life with Link Power Management (LPM), which can reduce the power consumption of the chipset and Serial ATA (SATA) hard drive.
    I have always liked AMD, and had an AMD laptop which ran quite good. I just choose intel over AMD on Mobile platforms because they have better support and wider availability of hardware configurations. If I was going to build a Desktop, I would DEFINITELY choose AMD over intel. Price, Performance, and Simplicity is what I recognize with AMD. The worst thing, at least I believe, for a computer is to add bloatware. Intel has a lot of bloatware, such as the RST. AMD's are overclockable in the OS as well... But I am sure Intel does this too... It all boils down to price. Why pay a premium when they do the same damn thing?
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    So even if it does do something worthwhile, the way I read it, only useful for RAID if at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by popeye View Post
    So even if it does do something worthwhile, the way I read it, only useful for RAID if at all.
    Essentially... Even if you have RAID, I would dump it.
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