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About to install windows 8.1 usb (UEFI) need bakup

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    Windows 8.1 (HOME not Pro) 64bit

    About to install windows 8.1 usb (UEFI) need bakup


    hey guys,

    what can you recommend to do a backup of my system before I wipe it and clean install windows..

    I want a simple and effective program that works..

    I know even windows 8 has a usb recovery disk.. can i clone/backup my hard drive through windows and is it effective?

    I need some recommendations. I would like to just use windows if possible so then i dont have to have any 3rd party involvement.. but unless its free and more effective than the windows backup..

    I'm also asking because i just got a new laptop with pre-installed windows 8.1 and i haven't even turned it on yet because i was going to boot it up through a usb recovery disk and totally backup the system before I even turned it on for the first time..

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    San Jose - California
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    Use Macrium Reflect Free to create a backup image to an external Hard drive. Here's the video I made a while back, it will work with all versions of Windows.

    NOTE: This video shows you how to backup just Windows OS (Hidden partitions + C drive). If you want to backup the whole drive, Use the option: Image this disk...

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    Windows 8.1 (HOME not Pro) 64bit


    I'll give that a shot.. just out of curiosity, is this same kind of thing possible with just the windows recovery usb/cd ?
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    San Jose - California
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    Quote Originally Posted by bassfacer22 View Post
    I'll give that a shot.. just out of curiosity, is this same kind of thing possible with just the windows recovery usb/cd ?
    No. Windows recovery usb/cd allows to boot the PC into WinPE environment to trouble shoot/repair and also allows you to reset/refresh Windows. It does not create backup image. With Laptop, there's a factory recovery partition (normally ~ 15GB-20GB) which you also create if you ever need to re-install Windows back to the day you first purchased your Laptop.
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    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10


    If you have an OEM computer, chances are you have an OEM recovery image, that will allow you to do a Bare Metal Reset of your Factory Image.. Control Panel - Recovery - Create a Recovery Drive..

    Be doing so you can recover to a Blank Hard Drive or a Messed up One..

    Not all computers have a back up Image, so the recovery media will be just that, start up media..

    But if it OEM, and you did not receive media disks, the factory image is there..

    Another way to tell is through disk management - with the last partition being say 10GB-20GB this is the recovery image partition usually.. Some OEM's also place the image in the first partition which would make it about that size
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    Windows 8.1.1 Pro with Media Center


    Yes.
    Macrium is good.

    edit--- The paid Standard version of Macrium is what I use. It has a boot time recovery environment.
    Last edited by David Bailey; 09 Dec 2014 at 23:37.
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    Windows 8 Pro


    If you really want to do it before you ever boot Windows, you will need a program on a bootable disk. Not sure if Macrium free has that capability, it might.

    If you are not really locked into that, then you can turn it on, and create an image to an external hard drive from Control Panel>File History. In order to later use that image you will need a recovery drive to boot the computer, so you may as well also create the full recovery drive like KYHI says above, and when you are making the recovery drive, tell that utility to also copy over the full recovery information. That gives you two ways to recover the computer later - the manufacturer's recovery drive, and the image you made to the hard drive yourself.

    To create the recovery drive will require either a 16 or 32 GB flash drive. when you start the process it will let you know.
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    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10


    If you are not really locked into that, then you can turn it on, and create an image to an external hard drive from Control Panel>File History.
    Just to add to the info provided - Control panel - file history - bottom left corner "system image backup"

    This will create a complete system image backup of your current system.. That image along with the "create a recovery drive" will get you the factory image backup and a complete current system backup..

    Although, I have found that the system image backup will fail on a bare harddrive
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    San Jose - California
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    IMHO, this is a very simple process and Macrium can do it all. As the matter of fact, you don't even have to install it. Just download the Recue ISO file from here: Macrium WinPE .iso - OneDrive created by WHS . Format a USB stick with FAT32. Use Winzip/Winrar to extract to the USB stick, boot up from it. Select image this disk... as shown below to an external drive then you'll have the whole original image of the disk in one single file including the OEM factory partition.

    Click image for larger version
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    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10


    Topgun, I have seen the use of macrium posted many times, but that is the first time seen posted a winpe bootable

    Now I see why - macrium downloads winpe
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